Re: I highly Recommend the Sonus GDE
I think post 23 exemplifies that elitism I was talking about with the utmost alacrity.
@22, That's the thing though. You can't hope to match games made by actual programmers, because we understand how the game runs down to the minute detail, you just know that you dragged a function block and it throws up an alert box or something like that. There is so much you can't do and it makes me sad that we're going to get so many people thinking they're a master developer and they made this amazing game and aaarg you didn't do any real work!
Redfox is saying that someone who writes a game in a scripted gaming language will never match the quality of something he or is fellow programming compatriots can put out. And where is your AAA title to prove this point? Until you have an actual product to hand that we can rate, this is just a bunch of groundless boasting and nonsense.
He further goes on to say that we'll never know how to fix a problem because we just drag and drop without knowing what we're doing, which just illustrates that he hasn't even looked at the GDE, and is just speaking his opinion out of ignorance. If he had, he would know that you can see the code that the program puts in, and can even modify it in raw text form.
He's also saying those of us who use a scripting language didn't do any work, thereby already exhibiting his elitist mindset by discrediting the creativity of anyone who dares to use a game scripting language. Some of us are great story tellers who doesn't want to learn how to use a full-fledged programming language because that just isn't either our aptitude or desire. And some of us might be able to program the international space station, but can't tell a story to save a soul. Your wonderful game written in c+++++++++ won't be that great if it just contains millions of fansy coding projects, but has a story script that falls flat on its face.
Many people use game scripting languages such as TADS, Inform, BGT, Quest, etc, and are just fine with it.
Also, fill me in here. What's the point of this negative feedback about the GDE anyway? Maybe I'm misinterpreting it, but it almost seems like you guys are trying to convince the developer and users of the language that it just isn't worth it. Are we trying to drive off another developer again?
Kai
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