Hi Pat,

> The real trick is dithering the data back down to 16 bits.
> Just truncating the data (either double, single floating,
> or long integers) is clearly audible.

Hmmmm...clearly audible?  Can you elaborate?  According to Craig Maier
at Diamond Cut the worst you'd see for 16 bit red book would be 0.0008%
THD.  That's if the program got it wrong 100% of the time.

Full quote...

> Basically, talking about rounding errors in the same breath as using the
> word Vinyl is humerous to me. Relatively speaking, there is no impact
> unless you transferred the recording at around - 50 dB or lower into a
> 16 bit system. Lets consider the performance of the various components
> involved in the process of record transfer:
> 
> 1. Vinyl LP Record: 60 dB dynamic range at best
> 
> 2. 16 bit Red Book CD Audio dynamic range: 96 dB
> 
> 3. Diamond Cuts Math routines dynamic Range: 384 dB
> 
> The rounding error will be +/- 1/2 LSB (Least Significant Bit) in
> general. That translates into the following:
> 
> 1. Vinyl LP: 1 part in 2000 (assuming that it was a digital system - -
> - there is no real rounding error in an analog system like a vinyl
> record, but any signal below the noise floor is of no value - - - thus
> anything below 60 dB is useless. But I show its dynamic range in ratio
> form for your comparison to digital systems shown below)
> 
> 2. 16 bit Red Book Audio: 1 part in 64,000 which represents about
> 0.0008% Harmonic Distortion. The best Vinyl records had 1 to 2 % THD.
> 
> 3. Diamond Cuts Math routine: 1 part in 3.7 x 10 ^19
> 
> So, you can see that the weak link in the system is, by far, the vinyl
> LP record. You will never in a million years hear this quantization
> error unless you transfer the record down in the mud of the system (VU
> meters not budging at all).
> 
> Also, I will pay a kings ransom to anyone who can show me that they can
> discern a difference due to quantization errors introduced by gain
> normalization, but they must use double blind testing / listening
> techniques to prove their point.
> 
> It is just math and science; there is nothing magical going on here and
> common sense should dictate a reasonable conclusion.

http://www.diamondcut.com/vforum/showthread.php?t=1845

It's humorous to me that the fella that started this thread sounded
like he'd just about be satisfied recording his records through a VOIP
phone line, and here we are splitting the hair to the nth degree. :)

Regards,
eCo


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