95bcwh;143024 Wrote: > You will be surprised, what noise can do to your mid range. Depending on > the degree of "noisiness" it introduce to your system, it can make your > mid range fuller, while sacrificing a little bit of top end > transparency, sacrificing a little bit of bottom end tightness, if you > got it right, it can be a more pleasant sound to some people.
Noise has a use in rounding off digital artifacts, but a higher noise floor from an op-amp only masks detail if it is audible. Of course if you have a published article from a reputable manufacturer to back up your statements, I'll happily concede the argument. 95bcwh;143024 Wrote: > If measurement is the only "truth" that's worth pursuing, I wonder why > manufacturers still need to send their gears for review. Why > Stereophile still bothered with listening, might as well just get all > the measurements, and use them to rank every piece of equipments. Life > can be so simple. We as a consumer can benefit so much, just look up > the database, pick the best measured gear that falls within our budget. > There's no need to audition anything in dealerships, because two amps > that measured the same must sound the same, manufacturers can just > publish their data, get an independent consultant to verify them, and > sell everything direct. There should be no argument about which gears > is better than which, because it's all in the numbers. Life can really > be so simple, I long for that day to come. Taking the argument to an extreme doesn't make it more valid, it just raises emotions. No-one has said that measurements are the only criteria to use when buying equipment, so you aren't presenting any evidence that supports the view that measurements don't tell all the story. A factual example of some situation where no amount of measurement or test inginuity would have shown a difference would be a better way to go forwards. I'm always ready to shift my position in the face of irrefutable proof. Why not go back and re-read the comments about mods and measurement. No-one who argued for measuring equipment said that it made listening tests redundant, but several have the viewpoint that changes to circuits and designs should be accompanied by understanding of the topology and apply quality engineering practice. I never buy based on reviews in magazines. They are biased and influenced by advertising revenues. Manufacturers submit gear for review for marketing purposes. I actually do use measured performance and budget to shortlist gear as a starting point. If it measures badly, then in all likelihood it won't sound too great either. There are exceptions, but they tend to required system matching to offset the non-ideal response of the equipment. If we were talking televisions, I don't suppose there would be too many arguments against checking measurable things like contrast ratios, colour balance or resolution. Why do we get emotional when it's audio? -- CardinalFang You're only young once, but you can be immature forever... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ CardinalFang's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=962 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28080 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
