cliveb;153795 Wrote: 
> I don't necessarily agree with your conclusion. My experience is that
> the SB2 DAC is actually pretty high quality.
> 
> Do we know whether the Yamaha digitises its analogue inputs? If it
> does, then there is bound to be a gain mismatch between the digital and
> analogue inputs, and this could easily account for perceived quality
> differences (louder is generally interpreted as better).
> 
> Here's the reason for the gain mismatch. When you use a digital input,
> it can simply be passed straight to the DAC. When you use an analogue
> input, it has to be passed through an A/D converter. Now, since the
> Yamaha cannot possibly know what signal level you might feed it, it has
> to operate the A/D converter at a level so that the largest conceivable
> input won't cause digital clipping. Therefore more typical input levels
> will be operating the A/D converter below its peak level capability.
> Apart from getting a quieter digital signal (compared to feeding the SB
> digital output into the Yamaha), you'll also be losing a bit of
> resolution. But I'd be surprised if the Yamaha didn't have a decent 24
> bit A/D converter, so the resolution issue shouldn't be a big deal - my
> money is on the analogue input simply providing less volume.
> 
> (Of course if the Yamaha has a poor quality A/D converter, then that
> could be a much more straightforward reason for the reduced quality via
> its analogue inputs).
> 
> Incidentally, to test the SB digital coax, just use any RCA lead you
> have lying around. As long as the length of cable is not too long,
> you'll be fine.

I bought a digital coax cable and tested it with the SB2 to Yamaha and
it was indistinguishable in sound and bass quality from the digital
optical. Since I can't run the digital through anything but the Yamaha,
it is very difficult to say what the difference is. I do appreciate your
thoughts about volume, although I don't think that's it. When I play a
bass heavy song like "Burning Down the House" at volume with the
digital output connections (and tone controls neutral), it punches you
in the stomach and shakes the filament of a nearby lightbulb. When I
run the same song through the RCA analog at volume, it has no punch and
sounds too bright, almost noisy.

I should say that the reason for my original question is that I am
setting up my SB2 with my NAD S200 separately from my home theater (HT)
for space and imaging reasons so the Yamaha is staying with the HT. I
plan to first buy the S100 preamp that was designed to mate with the
S200. Because it doesn't have digital inputs of any kind (all RCA), I
will be testing it with the SB2's RCA analog output. This might solve
my problem. Do you think so? If it doesn't, I would be inclined to buy
a decent DAC that accepts a digital coax input and run SB2 to DAC to
NAD S100 to S200.


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