Good post, and good post Adamslim, too ( you can deduce my argument from
the article and read about it elsewhere).  There is no question -- none
-- that  if you're listening to broad dispersion sources or to off-axis
speakers  you will, per force, hear stuff outside of the boundaries of
the speakers.  But, think about it: those wave fronts are moving away
from you, right?  The only way they get BACK at you is by reflecting
off of something.

Again, this is not to say this is a bad thing!  I happen to prefer box
speakers -- and box speakers do this stuff -- to electrostatics because
they have more body and presense and...yes...a larger, if more
amorphous, sound stage.  Incidentally, Tact and RCS solutions are a
great way to address this stuff by tackling the time domain.

Phil Leigh;165436 Wrote: 
> We've been over this before ( a lot!).
> 
> There are studio tricks (using well documented and understood phase
> anomoly manipulations) to make sounds appear to come from well outside
> of the conventional soundstage - ie "between the speakers" - however I
> have to qualify this since most speakers radiate out in a rather vague
> cone and these cones do indeed extend beyond the physical walls of the
> speaker cabinets. 
> All of the sound from both speakers will play a part in the perceived
> "stereo" soundstage - remember that both ears the sound from both
> speakers...just slightly differently.
> 
> By the way, try listening in mono...do you get a sound that appears to
> emanate solely from a point near the exact center of the speakers? - or
> do you get a more diffuse image that appears to occupy the space between
> the speakers and possibly beyond? - try it and see - you might be
> surprised by the results!
> 
> 
> Anyway, since the stereo soundstage that we perceive (regardless of how
> it was created) is actually created by our brains doing some pretty neat
> realtime processing of a totally artficial image pair + bunch of
> somewhat unpredictable reflections...anything is possible.
> 
> If you have your speakers toed-in with the crossover point in front of,
> or near to, your ears I would expect the soundstage to be predominantly
> "between the speakers". That's one reason why (IMHO) it's a good idea
> to have your speakers as far apart as possible - it gives the widest
> (most impressive) soundstage. Some people have a fear of the "hole in
> the middle" effect but I've found with reasonable speakers and plenty
> of volume it's really hard to suffer from this in conventional rooms -
> even quite large ones.
> 
> (obviously there are certain speakers - omni's, 'Bariks, some panels -
> that do not obey anything like the behaviour described above!)


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