Eric Carroll wrote: > I have no interest inciting a subjectivist vs. objectivist flame war > here. I respect your opinion and in fact agree with the comment you > made about circuit layout, etc. Circuit layout impacts noise and noise > is a major consideration and, most importantly is measurable.
I am neither - I'm staunchly on the fence! > What I perhaps should have said is that two DACs that test out equally > well (low noise, flat response, low harmonics) won't have a color. > Specifically if the Tp tests out the same as a SB3/DAC1 then it is my > opinion that coloration is a subjectively induced issue and would fail > a double blind ABX test. If however such a test were to show a > statistically significant ability to pick the right one, then, the > measurement was not the right measurement and we would have something > to talk about. > > While I am not an analog circuit expert or an EE, everything I know in > the digital domain (and that is a lot) tells me this statement is true. > However, I have not done a double blind study to confirm it nor do I yet > know of any. I will happily accept any data based correction. > > This is my opinion and I hope others will respect that fact, too. Eric, I don't disagree with you, so don't take this as an argument - rather a discussion of the issues. I agree that, in theory, audible differences should be measurable (that's my objective side) but I also believe that it is entirely possible for the human ear to detect differences that are difficult, if not impossible to measure (subjectivist). I also believe that the brain is easily fooled, and might be tricked into hearing differences that aren't there. It's not the digital domain that is the problem - once the audio data is digital it's fairly bomb-proof. It's when you come to convert from the digital information to an analogue signal that the problems start, and that's without getting into how the audio might be managed in the analogue domain. So, as you see - a pretty mixed up viewpoint with no strong opinion either way. All that really means is that I can argue with everybody!! :) R. _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
