opaqueice;200633 Wrote: 
> You're right - but in the case of painting, I don't think it's the law
> that's really important.  Once an artist becomes famous her work has an
> intrinsic value because it was created by her - and no matter how
> accurately I copy it, no one will attribute the same value to my copy. 
> That's got nothing to do with the law.

Sure it does: it is illegal to pass off a fake Picasso as a legit one. 
The word is "forgery" and is criminal.  It is even illegal when there is
no copyright: knowingly misrepresenting a fake Van Gogh as real is
fraud.

Making an exact replica of Starry Night would be worthless: yay, you
copied.. what about creativity, which is the whole point of art?

People would pay the same amount for a print of someone else' work if
they didnt know it was a forgery since authenticity is much more
difficult to determine.  This sort of violation is very common,
especially with photography.  (How do you tell a legit Ansel Adams
print from a fake -- either an unauthorized reproduction, or
misrepresentation?)

> 
> Another example is academics.  While there are laws governing
> plagiarism, they're just about totally irrelevant, because there is a
> culture of attribution within the academy that is far more powerful
> than any law.  If a historian gets caught having plagiarized something,
> the legal aspect is the least of his worries - the destruction of his
> academic reputation, probable loss of his job. etc. matter much more.

There is the concept of "Fair Use" (despite what some insist).  As for
which is worse: perhaps that the loss of earning  potential is far
greater than the damages in a copyright case.  Losing a tenured
position and having a major mark on your job history  is much worse
than paying a civil award of a few thousand dollars.  ("Actual damages"
in most copyright cases is very small: except when RIAA make up numbers,
or when SCO lawyers just make everything up.

> 
> In my field (physics) - when I "publish" a paper I put it on the web,
> freely available to all without any copyright, because I WANT people to
> copy it and work from it - so long as they reference me.  And they have
> to reference me, because if they don't they will be forced out of the
> field.  Just about every paper in physics and math now appears (and
> stays permanently) on a free web server long before it shows up in a
> traditional journal - here it is if you're curious:

Unless you specifically renounce the copyright, it is copyrighted.

(Knowledge is not copyrightable: the way that knowledge is expressed,
however, is.  By default any creative expression is copyrighted.  The
exception would be pure facts and data organized in a non-creative
manner: sorting names and phone number by last name or even by phone
number is not creative.  Organizing the same items in a creative
manner, such as denoting relations between companies, however, would be
protected.)


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