Phil Leigh;260184 Wrote: 
> This is a very astute observation and plays right to the heart of the
> "burn-in" phenomena IMHO.
> 
> What we hear is not absolute reality - it is merely an interpretation
> by our brains of what our senses detect. Hence everyone's experience is
> slightly different.
> 
> There is no truly credible scientific evidence that burn-in happens in
> reality. The only way we have to judge is through our somewhat
> susceptible personal interface.
> 
> There's no doubt that anything with a moving mechanical component
> "breaks-in". However, I think the jury is still well and truly out on
> cable etc burn-in. 

Hello Phil,

I share your believe that there must be measurable differences or one
should call it snake oil.

Music and audio is about passion and that is why discussion quickly
become passionate.

About components:
I always had silver audio cables in my system, but I use it for a good
laugh to casual listeners on how precious the system is ;-)
I have a hard time understanding why one should paint the CD edge with
a pen or fluid, put a mat on top of it, use vibration free stands for
amplifiers (anyone tried this on the SqueezeBox?), use special wall
outlets, use podiums to avoid speaker cables from touching the floor,
ferrite cores or expensive power cables.

I had an epiphany though. I bought a PS Audio 300 power source for
CD/preamp when I moved from the 120V part of the world to 240V. It is
used as a nice, overpriced transformer.  
I was shocked by the audible sonic change it brought with it, because I
did not expect anything. 
I will try it with the SqueezeBox 3 and will post something in case of
a change. I also can understand why a PCM switching power supply
introduces  voltage variations and can imagine a difference to a linear
power supply.

About break-in:
the Squeezebox sounds different to my ears after 20 hours, which I
account to my getting used to it. Break-in always is reported as
improving the sound. I see no reason, why this should only go one-way.

In general, there is a measurable shift of the electrical
characteristics of components and ICs within the first 100h (have
enough leakage, C(V) data to prove it). Major reason is that charges
get incorporated in dielectrics, but this saturates quite quickly.
After several years there is then gradual fatigue, which  leads to
leakages and break-down and the component dies.

However, for ICs at least the functionality and output signals in
general do not change, because the circuit is designed to compensate
internally for process variations and drifts over lifetime.
BTW process / production variations by far exceed the break-in changes.


But if people follow their passion, what can I say
sweetsound


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