someone wrote:
>>> These blanket assertions of superiority of one source over another
>>> w/o some rigorous testing are quite invalid and boring.
 > Robin Bowes wrote:
>> I agree.
>>
>> Mainly because the language used is inevitably some thing like "X blows
>>
>> Y away", or similar. For example, in this case:
>>
>> "Audio Quality is stunning, and blows away the TP in all aspects in my
>> opinion."
>>
>> Now, it may well be that the source in question is very good; I don't 
>> know, I've not heard it. But, we're talking about a digital source
>> here. 
>> There's no way on earth that *any* digital source can "blow away" 
>> another. Just like the Transporter doesn't "blow away" the SB3; sure 
>> it's better sounding, if you have a sufficiently high-calibre system 
>> that can resolve the differences, but it's not "night and day". Hell, 
>> I've got a v.old CD player (Marantz CD50SE - about 20 years old!) and 
>> yeah, both the SB3 and Transporter sound better, but the difference is
>>
>> not massive.
>>
>> R.
> I do not agree with your statement.  Digital sources make the most
> meaningful difference in quality.  You can never hear what's been lost.

I don't disagree with that (even 11 months later). Deficiencies in 
digital sources are different than, say, speakers with a "bumpy" 
frequency response. They're often not immediately obvious to the 
listener, sometimes only becoming apparent after a longer period of 
listening.

> If the source doesn't bring it out, it doesn't matter what the amp and
> speakers do.  I had a Linn Karik-Numerik a couple of years ago.  I had
> friends bring over their CD players and I would leave the room during
> the comparison.  Every time everyone in the room thought that the
> Karik-Numerik had a much more musical sound. Most of these guys were
> very skeptical and to a man and woman they were perplexed and amazed at
> how good a digital source could sound.  That was easy money.

But that's not just a "digital source" - it's a transport and D/A.

> I have a Duet and I really enjoy the ease of use and versatility.  It
> doesn't sound as good as my CD player, but it's a lot easier to find
> the music I want to hear in my collection.  I plan to buy a Linn DS
> player.  They sound fantatic and leave you buried deep inside the
> music.  The user interface from Linn is a different story, but I have
> seen some promising things from some of the third party developers.  I
> have heard the Transporter, it has some very good qualities.  It just
> doesn't get me involved in the music.
> 
> Logitech has cool products, and they have done a lot to make good music
> available and easy to use.

I still maintain that the difference between Duet/SB/Transporter/Karik 
digital sources when used with the same DAC (the Numerik, in your case) 
will be, at best, subtle. Sure, there may (will?) be differences but, as 
I said in my original statement, they will not be "night and day".

R.

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