ncarver;582678 Wrote: 
> 
> Sorry, I did not mean those quotes to apply directly to you, and I
> should have made it clear that I meant them as generic statements that
> I feel reflect the gist of statements I read all the time on this list.
> I truly apologize for any confusion.  However, I did think that they
> accurately represented your point of view given these definite direct
> quotes from you in this thread:
> 

Apology accepted.  It's true there have been numerous tests over the
years, but the most convincing evidence for cables being inaudible
doesn't come from null results.  It comes from physics (which allows
one to calculate the magnitude of the effect) and hearing thresholds
(which tell you it's well below them for any reasonable cable, and that
the most easily audible effect is simply volume attenuation).

As for "scientific proof", that's an oxymoron.  

> All I take away from this discussion then is that you believe you are
> right and do not need to provide any concrete evidence for your
> position because you believe it should be obvious to everyone that it
> is correct.  I did actually hope for more given that you are supposedly
> a scientist, but I realize this is just a hobby to you as it is to me,
> so I frankly would have been surprised to see you present some actual
> evidence.  

There are in fact plenty of such listening trials described on the web.
You can google, or I can link to some if you insist.  I've never seen
one that obtained a positive result in a controlled trial (for cables
that is), with one exception where the attenuation was high enough to
be audible (and that difference went away when the volumes were
matched).  

But what's more convincing is to simply estimate the size of the
difference a cable can make, and you see immediately that it is far too
small to worry about.  I can show how to do that if you like, or perhaps
there's a link.

Meanwhile, Randi's $1,000,000 awaits...

Henry66;582292 Wrote: 
> http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/97-swift-october-12-2007.html


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