Ron Olsen;684705 Wrote: > Good audio science = validated by blind listening test, with precise > volume matching between the test alternatives. > > Good audio science = validated by relevant electrical or acoustic > measurements.
thats a good partial answer thanks. Rgro rasies some more q it is not just about audio science some audiophile tweaks fly in the face of all science. Imo there is only one " science " however ill defined I know. In all science it goes something like " the more fantastic and counter to known science your claim is the harder you have to work to prove it " Example no one would balk and demand proof of you or tell you that you are spreading fud and BS, if have a tread where described that another toe in angle made you speakers sound better, or if go from 25watt to 250 watt amp of your dynaudios. You can ofcourse be the victim of just as much perceptual bias here to, but behind thes changes are well accepted principles on how stuff works ( aka science ). So being a friendly discussion forum we believe you at face value. But on the other hand you claim that specially treated spiral tube around you power cables makes a difference ( an old peter w belt tweak ) I would call BS on you for sure . There is no science behind this and it's is extremly unlikely that you heard it rigth. And some tweaks do fly in the face of all science, that why people are sometimes very quick about calling bs on some stuff. Example TAS latest drivel re computer audio. if TAS is rigth the whole body of known science in computers and physics has to be rewritten and absolutely knothing we knows works as we thougth it did. and why do we have particle accelerators and science labs proffesors, shools like MIT , when all you need is a set amp shakti stones and some quantumpurifiers to overthrown known science ? This goes back to you have to work hard if your claim is fantastic. Another valid piont I would like some help with is how do we piont out kindly that " this cant be rigth " just as thier is powerfull ways to convince people of audio BS ( TAS and Hifi+ and Stereophile does this weekly ) there must be ways to better argue the other piont . What I think is the biggest problem as that such arguments works against perceptual bias and the BS works with them, so the sane argument sometimes counter to what some one " hears " . -- Mnyb -------------------------------------------------------------------- Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD & SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92918 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
