I was thinking about the topic. Why there is no more thorough deconstruction of specific products/claims.
1. The level of disinformation is close to 100% almost the whole audio press are into to the scam or fooled by it, you cant get through. so it is futile to even try 2. The claims by voodoo hifi designers are so ridiculous that no serious person is going to spend any time debunking it as it is "obvious" bs . I think not, there are so many lay person interested in hifi that some basic well known facts should be repeated now and then for educational purpose the "obvius" is not always obvius. And exemplification by in detail examine a bogus product and why it does not work is a good way to get to the point . For example amps with high output impedance and low power can't really drive speakers and the fact that some amps needs "special" speakers should make you get the obvious conclusion about these amps real performance . And we are again back in the state of affairs we was in the 60-70's as many products now have performance we thought we left behind in the past . So sadly even the crude and incomplete measurements used then would expose these products . This will be the most long lived audio myth of them all . because in the 70's we used the simple thd at 1kHz in to a simple resistor to rate amps often at the 1% and other simplifications this is marketing bollocks so they hit us with fine numbers on stuff that really was no good ok. Especially driving real speakers. So in reality these things did not measure well . So there really is no measure well but sound bad products just bad measurements ! just look at the noise levels for example. But modern amps are designed with the total performance in mind data is done with 20-20kHz measurement at rated low level of thd which is better. But in the background there are much more test regarding stability and other factors. So modern products with todays simplified data set presented in marketing are much better with the exception of some HT products where we again see a kind of spec war, often to high power figures . The specs in papers are still incomplete but they are not a coincidence but often a consequence of otherwise good engineering . An ADM or other null tests would be better . This is a background to why some people just disregard the technical performance completely :-/ But you can go about it the other way if a cult design has 3% thd and 8 watt power and other issues this is a major problem even if the x factors they claims to fix really existed ! So it does not matter how much silver you have in the cables if you still have 3% thd or 2 ohm output impedance . So we should start looking at products that at least are better than our thresholds for detecting these problems . Again this should not really be a problem 2012 but as shown by audio note you can get 1950's performance for your money :-/ -- Mnyb -------------------------------------------------------------------- Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD & SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93542 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
