cliveb;693375 Wrote: > Sigh. It's all very simple. > > The TAS authors heard a difference that really ought not to be there. > Assuming for the moment that they are not flat-out lying and genuinely > did perceive a difference, there are two possible reasons: > > 1. There really are audible differences, which goes against a vast body > of accumulated knowledge. > > 2. The effect is down to well-understood non-auditory factors. This is > the overwhelmingly likely explanation. > > We can draw an analogy to the recent "faster than light" neutrino > results. The experimenters checked and double checked, and when they > really couldn't find fault with their methodology, they appealed for > others to check their methods, as well as to attempt to replicate the > results. (Recently, a flaw was indeed found, much to the relief of > physics). > > In similar vein, the TAS authors have appealed to the rest of us to > attempt to replicate their results. But what they failed to do was to > ask for flaws in their methodology to be found. And it took about a > millisecond to find such deep flaws, which render their results utterly > invalid. > > When someone announces that they have discovered something that goes > against the existing body of knowledge, and their methods are found to > be flawed, there is no earthly reason why anybody should waste their > time to take it seriously or attempt to replicate it.
+1 thats why it is enough to just observe their most blatant errors and inability to correct to be able to dismiss all their work as the same methods are used for every one of their finds. If you can conclude that a copied files sounds different nothing else deducted by these methods can be reliable, simple. Observe not dismiss all what they intended to investigate* but given their methods they have not accomplished anything solid about the chosen objectives . *some thing they chosen to investigate are proven beyond any reasonable doubt in other circumstances but they are audiophiles so the MO here is obviously -that anything can have an influence-* (which is BS ) so they must reinvent everything from alchemy to todays science. It may take a while to kick in all open doors test the phlogiston and ether hypothesis etc read up on 1700 thermodynamics and verify maxwell etc etc meanwhile the world moves forward. For example WAV and FLAC do not sound different there is no point in pursuing the matter . many of the choosen objectives are well understood facts this reeks pseudo science a long way and it is pathetic and laugable to watch them try to "prove" their point . it's in thier mision statement they have for example an article about how controlled listening test does not work ? so they reject scientific methods in pursue of matters than can settled with science no wonder they are laughed at ,no way I'm going to take those tools serious . Typically TAS neither measurements or controlled listening can tell anything about audio only golden eared sessions with wine taster terms about "midrange bloom" etc. Hint electronics is used in other stuff than audio and laws of pshysic are universally valid , nothing special with a circuit if it happens to carry an audio signal no exceptions for that . * this pow lead to the wide-eyed gullibility that's is rife in audio so the magic stone works or cryo treated cables oohh sure ;) -- Mnyb -------------------------------------------------------------------- Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD & SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93549 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
