bhaagensen wrote: > But I guess this is the point. There is some wiggly room in the > interface where science meets the real world. And I know, in the > sciences its usually controlled and abstracted using some kind of > error-model, but such error models can't be denied of being extremely > complicated if you dive into them, and in fact, not always that well > understood. And I guess in a way, its in this little space of > uncertanity that the audiophile story-tellers thrive. They can come up > with anything to fill the error-term and for the scientifically minded, > its very hard to provide rigid arguments against. We are basically > saying, look it holds 100% from here to the end of the universe - 1, and > then they quickly jump onto the last 1.
we don't need the quantum in audio (yet) maybe down in the -400 dB range :) macroscopic evidence about our hearing sets limits already not in the quantum, sane equipment already have performance beyond our hearing abilities so normal macroscopic signal theory will do fine . is it agreed that humans can hear 0.1% distorsion if they are sensitive in best case in the midrange ? and 120dB range in best case still macroscopic levels . All that is needed is the decades old listening test where the bloody obvius is confirmed that all low noise low distortion and flat frequency response equipment sound the same when operated -within it's spec's- * the wiggle room is in speakers who always has a house sound and can't ever be transparent and they interact with your room too ,and relatively economical power amps that are driven out of spec with many of todays hard to drive speakers . Also equipment miss-match , if they where standards for signal levels and gain and impedance and if some one cared about that . you can get tons of hiss and noise with to much gain for example anyone can hear that Yea there must be a plancksound the smallest possible sound 6.626068 × 10^-34 dB :) and planckdistorsion 6.626068 × 10^-34 thd :D but it probably drowns in the brownian motion of the air molecules , I suggest a zero kelvin listening environment . * The real non sequitur , the cult manufacturers knows this and provides distorting non flat equipment with very complicted transfer functions that ofcourse sound different . The perfect circular argument, with luck the design is so bad that it reacts on perfectly normal cable choices too so that you can hear difference in cabling :P ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69882
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