Archimago wrote: > Thanks for the comments SoftwireEng. > > Good comments about the vinyl. Although I personally have not bought any > vinyl since about 1987, I can certainly appreciate how good it sounds > when I'm visiting a high-end vinyl room. To be honest, I don't know if > I've ever been able to say it sounds that different from a well mastered > CD/high-res though... I know vinyl lovers have often said the sound > quality is hard (impossible?) to achieve with digital but I've not been > convinced of this yet (maybe I haven't heard a good enough setup). I > tend to be easily annoyed by surface noise, clicks, pops, static. I also > remember being annoyed when I used to buy new albums and finding little > scratches and warping upon opening the package :-( > > As an aside, I think vinyl needle drops can sound fantastic! For > digital releases which are poorly produced like Red Hot Chili Peppers' > "Stadium Arcadium" (thanks to Vlado Meller - master of volume knob at > '11'), the vinyl version is the only one to bother with.
+1 Vinyl is place where how things really work crashes with what they really do with the system . I was a vinyl diehard longer than 1987 like 1992 or something for a confused mush of reasons , nostalgia euphonics ? I can't really tell nowadays as I thought profoundly different about audio back then and was obviously biased in what I " heard " I was clearly in the audiophool camp when I was younger and I believed the audio magazines thou they could never really explain why "vinyl is better" ( you simply can't because it is not true ,as simple as that ) . So technically it is very broken , already at the cutting lathe the cut vinyl master do not sound as the master it was cut from and you can't fix that even with a rockport turntable or Linn or what ever . So it can't be close to transparent even early digital could do that. So my earlier vinyl affection I actually ascribe in part to some kind of bias and part to some very bad early cd masters and frankly my beloved vinyl centric hifi was not good enough it had some quirks that where lessened with vinyl . But with people like Vlade Meller in action , you have two loose ends good old euphonic vinyl and truly f****d up CD mastering usually not even from the same source, when audiophiles and music interested people tries to asses this mess ,they ( and I when I was younger) fail to see how significant the root causes for the situation is and how little of you actually can " fix " with whatever you do with your hifi . It can be somewhat disheartening to even think in these term if you are very emotionall about how you aproach hifi. My emotional focus is nowadays on the music I do love nice hifi equipment but I don't anthropomorphize my hifi to be something it is not ,it's not musical in itself the musicians are , so I won't ascribe mystical attributes to the mere tools I use to enjoy the material anymoore . ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98057 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
