garym wrote: 
> No, I'm talking about tests with people that have good systems and do
> care. Obviously there are probably millions of people who are perfectly
> happy with 128kbps lossy files. That's not the target group I'm
> referring to.  And please don't play "well I guess if you can't hear the
> difference you're system is not resolving enough" card.  This is of
> course nonsense on several dimensions.

I agree with this comment, garym.

In the MP3 test I ran late last year into Feb 2013, the folks with more
expensive systems (reportedly >$6000) actually PREFERRED the MP3 tracks
even more! This is with the ~150 respondents I received. This was a
surprise finding for me. Obviously audio lovers / audiophiles (aka audio
geeks) who would download ~75MB of test music, sit around to listen to 3
different tracks from different genres, and then fill out a
multi-question survey for me didn't in general hear massive
differences...

callesoroe: What song(s) did you use to test this? I'd love to have a
listen to this track myself.

For those who haven't had a look, here are the posts for the MP3 test a
few months ago:
Preamble:
http://archimago.blogspot.ca/2013/01/high-bitrate-mp3-results-part-0-preamble.html
- I still haven't heard from Neil Young about this  :-)
Procedure:
http://archimago.blogspot.ca/2013/02/high-bitrate-mp3-internet-blind-test.html
Results:
http://archimago.blogspot.ca/2013/02/high-bitrate-mp3-internet-blind-test_3422.html
Discussion:
http://archimago.blogspot.ca/2013/02/high-bitrate-mp3-internet-blind-test_2.html
Subjective Comments:
http://archimago.blogspot.ca/2013/02/high-bitrate-internet-blind-test-part-4.html
- Look at the comments from those who chose Set A (incorrectly). They
didn't seem to hear veils and such and thought the lossy was FLAC...

Although I don't claim the data to be the end of the debate, at least I
can say I have tried my best to receive input on this topic in a way
that concealed the MP3 file's identity and thus as best I can tell, the
results represent a blinded test of music going through the LAME encoder
(twice in fact!).


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