SBGK wrote: > JS has said he has measured noise, that's enough for me. > > What he describes accords with my experience of what affects SQ. Your > viewpoint doesn't. > > There are plenty of windbags on the interweb who claim to have never > heard any difference and want to enforce that view on others, why they > can't just let people hear what they want to hear and discuss it like > sensible adults still bemuses me.
In the world of high end audio the reality is quite a bit different from what you state, i.e. it is much that some respected high end audio guru (a very polite way to say windbag) claims to have heard a difference and all the audiophiles open their wallets. For example the notorious jitter, which can be easily measured but rarely heard in a properly designed and built non-asynchronous USB signal, but one audiophile guru claims to have heard jitter (a claim which the science of human hearing capabilities clearly refutes) and every audiophile is off to buy an asynchronous USB DAC. Now going back to one of my earlier posts on this thread - why are we having this discussion about USB signal regeneration on this forum when there are no Squeezebox devices with USB output? Oh wait because some users have modified their SB Touches so that the USB input can be used as an output for 24bit/192kHz. News flash: humans can't hear ANYTHING above 20kHz, except of course for audiophile gurus. And finally, as has been pointed out in several recent threads on this forum, many of us here are poor examples of audiophiles. But guess what that's because we listen to our music using Squeezeboxes, devices that have been damned with faint praise by the audiophile gurus. As far as I can tell the only computer based audio system that has been anointed by the audiophile gurus is a Mac Mini running Amorta(?) and connected via a >$500 USB cable to an asynchronous USB DAC. And this system exists because high end audio manufacturer after high end audio manufacturer keeps on introducing music streamers and music servers that try to use the completely worthless UpnP/DLNA clusterf*&k. Living Rm: Transporter-SimAudio pre/power amps-Vandersteen 3A Sign. & sub Home Theater: Touch-Marantz HTR-Energy Veritas 2.1 & Linn sub Computer Rm: Touch-Headroom Desktop w/DAC-Aragon amp-Energy Veritas 2.1 & Energy sub Bedroom: Touch-HR Desktop w/DAC-Audio Refinement amp-Energy Veritas 2.0 Guest Rm: Duet-Sony soundbar Garage: SB3-JVC compact system Controls: iPeng; SB Controller; Moose & Muso Server: SBS on dedicated windows 7 computer w/2 Drobos 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103684 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
