arnyk wrote: 
> *Only* 50 dB down from - 60 dB?
> Until digital recording that kind of performance from a recording was
> long-frustrated dream! That's better than most amplifiers and preamps
> that were in use in the day. It's better than most professional
> recording microphones and mic preamps.
> [.....]
> Most people I know who measure LP playback the first time wonder how we
> could stand listening to such a mess, and how people can possibly prefer
> it today in the face of far superior alternatives.

I agree completely it's a great result and it's why I never looked back
when I realised I don't have any analogue sources any more, and is why I
loved the idea of a digital integrated amplifier so I truly get a "one
box" solution with uniform high quality sound from all sources. Wish
more companies would get this. 

The word "only" was meant to be a comparator to the LP's graph, which
seems it has a different purpose on second inspection, even though it
was presented in response to quoted words about ".. seeing how an LP
would respond at -65db". So, if I'm exhibiting bias, please enlighten..

> One does not generally do a lot of testing of LP playback with -60 dB
> signals, since that is often below the LP's noise floor.

Yep, that was the point.

> A signal played at -60 dB is close to most room's noise floor, so
> signals 40 dB below that are generally lost in room noise. You might
> want to get a SPL meter and do some listening with peak levels 60 dB
> below the loudest levels that you ordinarily listen at.

And this is probably why people still like LPs...  ;) Yes I have an SPL
meter and I'm rarely exceeding 90db in normal music (maybe 100 - 105db
on the biggest bass notes - meter set to C weighting) so I have no doubt
any digital artifacts at the ~ -90db level are pretty much inaudible.


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