arnyk wrote: > False claim- we can conclusively prove to reasonable persons which > so-called audible effects are self-deception, and which are not. > > Just thinking about all the anti-scientific claims that have been been > shown to be false here lately. Then the source of them says "Ignore the > other comments". LOL!
I've only been here five minutes.. hardly an old hand at "false claims".. and I disagree that you can conclusively prove anything about perception. I agree that you can statistically prove that there is a "most likely" answer in a given test scenario but you can't prove that holds true for all people at all times and under all circumstances. So yes, for a "reasonable person" you can find sufficient statistics to show you are most likely correct, but I can't agree that those statistics are proof in themselves. I get what you're saying and I'm ok with disagreeing. But why do you need to stomp on anyone who wants to try anything out? Should we all just buy the cheapest basic sound system we can, do a room correction and be done with it? That is not the answer, as well as being no fun! :) I might be wrong, who knows? But I don't feel like I've seen any proof that what I hear/see is not what I hear and see, and I have done a few psychovisual experiments over the years so I know I can trust my judgement to some extent - even when the biological models say I shouldn't be able to perceive those things. Not that I'm special, some others could too, some couldn't. I've never taken part in a proper abx trial such as you describe. I would like to, I guess, even though it risks my being "proven" wrong. So there we are. There is room for doubt, in my opinion, and if I judge your view correctly you believe there is no room for doubt and all is subjective perception and there are no real audible differences between essentially any decently engineered electronics, right? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105572 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
