Here you go Noel. Regulation on registration markings.
https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2016C00418/Html/Volume_2#_Toc450031105 Mike At 08:59 PM 5/5/2016, you wrote:
Gary. I am becoming aged - turned 70 a few weeks ago. You're right. I've NFI what must be currently be displayed on sailplanes to meet regs. Interestingly, I made a statement some time ago that some members of the ASC and GFA considered the history of AG began when they first became associated with our sport. Seems it doesn't only apply to ASC. If you are interested, source pre 1965 AG's and you'll see how our sailplanes were recorded. Regards Noel. -----Original Message----- From: Aus-soaring [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gary Stevenson Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 9:12 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: [Aus-soaring] The Golden Age Hello Noel, My, you ARE becoming vocal in your old age! Just joking: Thank you so much for that valuable information. Quite fascinating! I suspect that you are not quite right re CURRENT requirements for display of rego on fin. Display on the fuse is now actually an alternative offered by CASA. I have not checked recently, but from memory all the current guff is (I think), set out in CASR 47. Emilis, on consideration, I do not entirely agree with your recent comments. Golden ages live in our memories, but (fortunately/unfortunately), memories are fallable. In any case, all that you refer has passed ..for ever. As always, NOW is the time to seize the moment Let me suggest to you and to everyone else who is a member of this forum, that the reality of gliding in Australia today .... right now ...... is that we are living in an era WHERE THIS IT IS AS GOOD AS IT IS EVER GOING TO GET. THIS is the golden age. So I suggest, ENJOY, ENJOY, ENJOY, whilst you still can. Regards, Gary -----Original Message----- From: Aus-soaring [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Noel Roediger Sent: Sunday, 24 April 2016 6:47 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider Registration Further to Emilis' comments: DCA did not require Australian gliders and sailplanes to be registered until about 1954. Until then - while GFA had to satisfy DCA particular type held a CofA, our aircraft were generally known by their colour. e.g. Golden Grunau, Blue Grunau, Silver Olympia, Yellow Witch etc.. One of a type in Aus. were known by their factory designation - Gull, Gull1V, Kranich etc.. The first sailplane I can remember with a DCA supplied fire-proof registration plate was the ES 49b built by the ASC and that was in late 1955. Similar plates were attached the clubs other aircraft - a Munn Falcon, Gull and the Golden Grunau at that time. No GFA aircraft was required to externally display it registration as other powered types were. Only a few months later SAGA held Australia's fixed site competition at Wakerie and sailplanes were required to display a competition number which was chosen or allocated. This method of identification became the norm and continued until the late 60's after which it became necessary to display registration letters on the fin and under-wing. Those aircraft registered VH-G-- only needed to display the last two reg. letters but when the VH-G ran out all other sailplanes had to display the last three letters underwing and because they wouldn't fit at legal size on most fin and rudders they are displayed on the rear fuselage. People requiring a particular VH reg. can either reserve it in the event the current owner cancelling it or making a financial offer to its holder. Some years ago the ASC operated a Callair tug - VH-MPA and a local community wished to have that reg. and the reg. was sold for significant $'s. Anyone with a need to know can check VH-G-- on CASA's web site. Noel. -----Original Message----- From: Aus-soaring [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of emillis prelgauskas Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 10:57 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider Registration A conversation that has never been formally had within the sport is the 'value' of an Australian registration. From my end, that registration held by an elderly airframe has meant that from 1949 onward it has been possible to trace the provenance (a la 'Who do you think you are') until the late 1970s when we ran out of VH-G.. and began to use a variety of intermediate prefixes. For me it is sad to see an airframe returned to service after a hiatus, needing a new registration, thereby losing the continuity. Others will pipe in for themselves, about the preference to have a VH-G.. reallocated ahead of a new intermediate prefix. And those who favour monikers ahead of VH-. as their call sign, recognition, etc. Emilis On 24 Apr 2016, at 8:28 am, Justin Sinclair <[email protected]> wrote: > I probably should know this but how do we control registrations. > Hackett, Borgelt or Scutter will no how to calculate how many markings > are available starting with G but I suspect that there are many G _ _ that are unflown. > I guess my question is how many gliders are out there never to fly > again and do we actively control them. > I get that there are many aircraft that are capable of restoration > however surely things like Blaniks and other things hanging from hangar trusses that will never be flown again can be de-registered back to their serial number so that should a miracle happen they can be registered. > Justin _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list [email protected] http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list [email protected] http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring ----- No virus found in this message. 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