That is so James. It is why I said the register numbers are somewhat
moot. 
 I'll add, I think there are probably more private owners flying than
360, because I don't believe all club aircraft are flying either (Back
in the day when I was CFI of a small club, we had 2 two seaters which
we would alternate for various reasons).
Also for smaller/winch clubs, would be surprised if their gliders did
more than some 10s of hours a year either (our club singles used to do
30-50 and our two seaters around 70, and that was a fairly consistent
one day a week operation).

But in any case the "limbo pool" of inactive aircraft (I just had a
look this morning) is large and must contain some comparatively modern
types. That is a big problem.

SWK   

----- Original Message -----
From: "James McDowall" 
To:, "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." 
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Sent:Thu, 2 Feb 2017 08:41:52 +1030
Subject:Re: [Aus-soaring] MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

It doesnt really matter how many gliders are on the register as the
real question is how many are active ie airworthy. This can be
extrapolated from the financial accounts and budgets which would
indicate that approximately 660 form 2's are purchased each year.
Assuming all the club gliders are airworthy that leaves just over 360
private aircraft are actually flown. Maintainers will tell you that
the majority of these fly less than 50 hours.

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 5:34 PM,  wrote:

        From the aircraft register of  2013 

        1220 gliders and motor gliders 

        950 privately owned 

        270 owned by clubs/cadets/societies etc. 

        last year 

        1276 gliders and motor gliders (+4.6%, 56 actual) 

        981 privately owned (+3.3%, 31 actual) 

        295 owned by clubs/cadets/societies etc. (+9.3%, 25 actual) 

        Only about 3 years difference, I'd be reluctant to say too much about
trends, have to go back and dig up a really old one. But private
ownership (in absolute terms) increasing more than club ownership (and
as others will point out, only about half of the gliders in Australia
are given an annual in any one year, so it all may be moot anyway). 

        gliders on the register newer than 3 years old in 2016 - (64 total) 


        36 private 

        28 club 

        Of those 64 new gliders 18 "pure" (mostly DG1000s, and 10 of them air
cadets), 46 with some sort of motor. That's a clue to the future right
there. 

        For pilot flying times, much more difficult to get a handle on.  

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 to put a different spin on it, how about asking some different
questions

 1) how many gliders are there now?

 2) how many are privately owned (percentage change)?

 3) have the annual flown hours per pilot gone up or down?

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