That is so James. It is why I said the register numbers are somewhat moot. I'll add, I think there are probably more private owners flying than 360, because I don't believe all club aircraft are flying either (Back in the day when I was CFI of a small club, we had 2 two seaters which we would alternate for various reasons). Also for smaller/winch clubs, would be surprised if their gliders did more than some 10s of hours a year either (our club singles used to do 30-50 and our two seaters around 70, and that was a fairly consistent one day a week operation).
But in any case the "limbo pool" of inactive aircraft (I just had a look this morning) is large and must contain some comparatively modern types. That is a big problem. SWK ----- Original Message ----- From: "James McDowall" To:, "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." Cc: Sent:Thu, 2 Feb 2017 08:41:52 +1030 Subject:Re: [Aus-soaring] MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW It doesnt really matter how many gliders are on the register as the real question is how many are active ie airworthy. This can be extrapolated from the financial accounts and budgets which would indicate that approximately 660 form 2's are purchased each year. Assuming all the club gliders are airworthy that leaves just over 360 private aircraft are actually flown. Maintainers will tell you that the majority of these fly less than 50 hours. On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 5:34 PM, wrote: From the aircraft register of 2013 1220 gliders and motor gliders 950 privately owned 270 owned by clubs/cadets/societies etc. last year 1276 gliders and motor gliders (+4.6%, 56 actual) 981 privately owned (+3.3%, 31 actual) 295 owned by clubs/cadets/societies etc. (+9.3%, 25 actual) Only about 3 years difference, I'd be reluctant to say too much about trends, have to go back and dig up a really old one. But private ownership (in absolute terms) increasing more than club ownership (and as others will point out, only about half of the gliders in Australia are given an annual in any one year, so it all may be moot anyway). gliders on the register newer than 3 years old in 2016 - (64 total) 36 private 28 club Of those 64 new gliders 18 "pure" (mostly DG1000s, and 10 of them air cadets), 46 with some sort of motor. That's a clue to the future right there. For pilot flying times, much more difficult to get a handle on. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." @lists.base64.com.au [2]> To:"Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." Cc: Sent:Wed, 1 Feb 2017 14:36:35 +1100 Subject:Re: [Aus-soaring] MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW to put a different spin on it, how about asking some different questions 1) how many gliders are there now? 2) how many are privately owned (percentage change)? 3) have the annual flown hours per pilot gone up or down? @johnroake.com [3]>@lists.base64.com.au [4]> _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au [5] http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring [6] Links: ------ [1] mailto:steph...@internode.on.net [2] http://lists.base64.com.au [3] http://johnroake.com [4] http://lists.base64.com.au [5] mailto:Aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au [6] http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring
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