Ok, I am curious so a long, long time ago the GFA secured the exclusive rights to allow their members to fly gliders.
why should the GFA have exclusivity? is the below a loop hole to break that? Has anyone tried to exploit it? > On 7 Feb 2017, at 12:11 pm, Matthew Scutter <yellowplant...@gmail.com> wrote: > > That was my interpretation too, and I'm still not clear on why we made all > the foreign pilots attending the WGC in benalla join the GFA to operate their > foreign registered aircraft with their foreign licences. I appreciate the > process was streamlined but I don't see the legislative requirement anyway. > The poms capitalized on this and are now saying - come fly the UK EGC, we > won't even make you join the BGA š > > On 7 Feb 2017 12:00 PM, "James McDowall" <james.mcdowal...@gmail.com > <mailto:james.mcdowal...@gmail.com>> wrote: > My reading of Mosp 2 (the GFA operations manual) is that membership of the > GFA is only mandated for foreign pilots and Class A airspace operations. > However, the GFA Operational Regulations (agreed between CASA and the GFA as > per CAO 95.4) say: > "3.1.1. An aircraft to which these Regulations apply must not be operated > except by an individual who is a member of the GFA (CAO 95.4)." which would > seem to run counter to the intent of CASR 61.1515 for why not say in the > regulation "must be a member of the GFA". > This question is did CASA exceed its authority to include this in the GFA > Operational Regulations when CAO 95.4 clearly defines an alternative path to > glider opeartions? > BTW reading Part 61 it would seem that a private operator of glider > maintained by a LAME and holding a PPL can legally fly the glider provided > you do not need the benefit of the exemptions of CAO 95.4 which only seem to > exclude slope soaring. Remember RA-Aus issues glider towing endorsements. > > > > On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Mark Newton <new...@atdot.dotat.org > <mailto:new...@atdot.dotat.org>> wrote: > >> On 7 Feb 2017, at 9:23 AM, James McDowall <james.mcdowal...@gmail.com >> <mailto:james.mcdowal...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Can anyone enlighten me as to which piece of legislation says a GPL has no >> validity in Australia? > > CASR 61.145 permits flight in a glider without a glider pilot license under > stated conditions. > > CASR 61.1515 limits exercise of the privileges of a glider pilot license to > activity āconducted in accordance with ā¦ the operations manual of a > recreational aviation administration organisation that administers glider > activitiesā¦ā > > The only such organization is the GFA. > > The operations manual of the GFA requires pilots to be GFA members and submit > to the GFA instructional system, flying GFA-registered aircraft maintained > under the GFA airworthiness system. > > If a pilot is a GFA member and has submitted to the GFA instructional system, > flying a GFA-registered aircraft maintained under the GFA airworthiness > system, they donāt actually need a glider pilot license in the first place. > > Thus the glider pilot license is useless in Australia. The credential that > CASA recognizes as authority to fly a glider in Australia is the GFA-issued > GPC, not the one on your Part 61 license. > > Hereās Simon Hackettās account of what it takes to get one, by the way: > https://simonhackett.com/2015/04/17/australian-to-usa-glider-pilot-license/ > <https://simonhackett.com/2015/04/17/australian-to-usa-glider-pilot-license/> > >> An Australian āGLIDER PILOT LICENSEā (GPL) issued by CASA (the Australian >> version of the FAA) is not a license to fly gliders in Australia. >> >> Instead, the GPL is it seems, merely an administrative construct ... that >> joins the dots between an international licensing system (that wants to see >> an ICAO compliant thing called a license) and the Australian glider flying >> environment administered by the GFA >> > > > - mark > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au <mailto:Aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au> > http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring > <http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au <mailto:Aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au> > http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring > <http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring> > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au > http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring
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