“I don’t think CASA cares a whole heap about that.”

No they don’t Mark but I think the courts would if you had the money and 
inclination to take that path.

Chris

From: Mark Newton 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 1:24 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

On Feb 7, 2017, at 1:49 PM, Christopher McDonnell <[email protected]> 
wrote: 

  Where does that fit with “Freedom of Association”?  Is that not why there is 
an ‘alternative path’?  You cannot be forced to join an association generally 
speaking.



I don’t think CASA cares a whole heap about that.

The various sports aviation orgs are struggling with this in their approach to 
Part 149 at the moment.

Part 149 formalizes and generalizes the RAAus/GFA approach, where CASA can 
carve-out sections of sports aviation and delegate them to membership-based 
organizations (“ASAOs”).

I think the existing orgs see this as a way to cement their membership: Formal 
generalized structure for them to hand out all manner of qualifications which 
collapse as soon as their recipients fail to renew their subscription.

SAAA is probably struggling the most: They see a path forward through Part 149 
for issuance of maintenance endorsements to operators of amateur-built 
aircraft, once appropriate training and testing has been developed. BUT their 
members have never received ratings which are contingent on SAAA membership; 
they’ve all joined because they want to join, not because they need to.

I don’t think Part 149 has merit. Its raison d’être is that the ASAOs can 
provide equivalent safety to each other and to CASA; so it seems to me that 
CASA should be issuing licenses and ratings. The Part 149 way is to have 6 
different ASAOs plus CASA all endorsing the same thing at the equivalent levels 
of safety, producing an aggregate cost to sports aviation potentially seven 
times higher than it would be if only one org was administering all of them; 
AND even though all the orgs are supposed to be delivering the same safety 
result, the endorsements they administer wouldn’t be portable between silos.

One silo: One set of regulations. One set of pilot qualifications. One 
airworthiness system. One regulator. One aircraft register. 

What are we gaining by having several?

  - mark








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