I’ve no answer to that Mike.
I flew Trevor’s FK3 when it was at Waikerie and nearly wrote it off. T/O commenced behind VH-WGC flown by Bruce Hartwig. When Bruce went to full power a cloud of dust enveloped the FK3. All I could do was keep the rope –all the visual 10” of it aligned and realising that was a pretty dumb fix applied a bit of back stick and rose above the dust to establish my attitude and waited for the Pawnee to come in to sight. I’ve no idea what my thought process was that averted the imminent catastrophe. After that all went well. I joined a thermal Bev had marked while flying the “Yellow Witch” and out-climbed the Olympia. That shouldn’t be taken as an aspersion on Bev’s thermalling ability (which is excellent) but as an example of the FK3’s performance. I joined up later with the WGC’s 301 and SH1 and the FK3 outperformed both by a significant margin. It’s handling was above average and the only thing that took a bit of time to get used to was the fact it had a broken stick. Regards Noel. From: Aus-soaring [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 8:16 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] [gfaforum] History Found this which would indicate an FK3 was flying in 1995. Page 246 for sale: https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/bga-sg-archive/Sailplane+ <https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/bga-sg-archive/Sailplane+%26+Gliding+1955+to+2000+-+274+mags+9.32GB/volume_xlvi_no.4_august_september_1995.pdf> &+Gliding+1955+to+2000+-+274+mags+9.32GB/volume_xlvi_no.4_august_september_1995.pdf Mike At 07:22 PM 11/29/2017, you wrote: Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01D3694B.91FD32F0" Content-Language: en-us Peter. Sorry for the duff gen. It effectively removed two years of my life and drifting off to sleep realised my mistake. I’d referenced it to Trevor’s original offer which was made in 1967 – just as I was about to become a CPL - completely forgetting the lead time from order to delivery and not referring to available references. When you next view Charlie’s log book can you confirm the original syndicate was Monty Cotton, Jan Coolhaas, Peter Hanneman and Werner Geissler. Mike; The history of the FK3 is an enigma. My info. came directly from TK. A dim memory recalls Harro Wodl flew it with success but I cannot draw any real conclusion as the nett doesn’t show any real fact. You will have seen that most reference CofA by LBA which you’ve previous alluded to came into play? NEW TRIVIA QUESTION. Two R3’s were built in Australia. First by Dr. Mervyn Hall at Toowoomba and the second by Arthur Powell at Canberra. Doc Hall lost his life when he had a heart attack and his R3 spiralled into the ground. Arthur , after a number of very successful flights sold his to a Camden based syndicate. That was written off when it was crashed by Tom Hanlon. Why? And why were we not advised in AG? Noel. From: Aus-soaring [ mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of Peter Brookman Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 10:03 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'; 'Ron Sanders'; 'Gliding Australia Forum' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] [gfaforum] History Some facts on GXC from present owner, taken from the log book and other documentation. He hasn't got the facts right. It was built in West Germany 1969. Very first test flight in Germany 49 minutes on 27/10/1969 by H MULLER Next test flight in Narromine 2 hours 40 minutes on 24/12/1969 by W GIESLER From: Noel Roediger Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 12:01 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' ; 'Ron Sanders' ; 'Gliding Australia Forum' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] [gfaforum] History The first two Kestrels came to Aus.in late 67 – just in time for the Nats that were held in Narromine. XC was owned by a syndicate based at Bathurst and XX was owned by Martin Simons, later purchased by the WGC where it still resides but is privately owned. XC was purchased by TT in 68 and he shipped him to Vrsac – Yugoslavia - for the 1970 Worlds. Of note, both these aircraft had balsa cores instead of the foam we are now used to. During the first winter the balsa absorbed moisture and the wing surface clearly showed the balsa planks. The only real cure was to store the aircraft in a warm and dry environment. After Tony sold XC to an Adelaide based syndicate disaster very nearly occurred. Towards the end of winter they noticed the surface distortions and proceeded to sand them out only to find the distortions re-appeared as indentations as summer progressed. Fortunately the smoothing had not touched the glass and a coat of primer/surfacer and further sanding restored the profile. Another interesting sailplane that arrived about the same time was an FK3 imported by Trevor Kyle and to be flown by John Rowe in the Nats. Unfortunately it did not have sufficient documentation to permit it to be flown. Later it was granted a Permit to Fly but after one suffered a mid-flight structural failure VFW recalled it to Europe where it and other survivors were destroyed. Noel From: Aus-soaring [ mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of Peter Brookman Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 10:08 AM To: 'Ron Sanders'; 'Gliding Australia Forum'; 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] [gfaforum] History XC now lives at Bordertown, owned by Adam Howell who purchased it from me. Previous to that was owned by Paul Bart ,DDSC., was at Murray Bridge (Pallamana) at one time. Tony T, owned it I guess from new in early 1970’s and flew in World Comps , Italy (i think). Peter Brookman From: Noel Roediger Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 9:23 AM To: 'Ron Sanders' ; 'Gliding Australia Forum' ; 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] [gfaforum] History Tony Tabart in XC From: Ron Sanders [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 8:21 AM To: Gliding Australia Forum; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 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