>Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 12:16:40 +0930 (CST) >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: BOUNCE [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Non-member >submission from [Maurice Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]�� >X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViSperl10-milter (http://amavis.org/) > > >From aus-soaring-owner Thu Oct 18 12:16:39 2001 >Received: from itm.com.au ([203.32.71.45]) > by lists.internode.on.net (8.11.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f9I2kaM71443 > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 >12:16:38 +0930 (CST) > (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) >Received: from melsa05.itm.com.au ([192.168.0.87]) > by itm.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA19889 > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 >14:23:17 +1000 >Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >X-Sender: mauricel@pop >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 >Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 12:48:51 +1000 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: Maurice Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [aus-soaring] AOC Training (Sporting Aviation) >In-Reply-To: <002e01c1576d$11840100$3c9d0ccb@giddy> >References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >This whole matter has absorbed countless hundreds of valuable Exec hours >fighting, negotiating and preventing this impost, to the detriment of much >more useful activity. The AUF cessation from ASAC and the prelude to this >has a degree of influence also. At last check the matter was deferred >until after Xmas but this needs checking. Meanwhile we have much to do to >get our house in order with every club properly checked for ops and sites >before the boom gets lowered. Do not confuse AOC for charter operations >with AOC's for normal ops. > >ML > >At 10:37 18/10/01 , you wrote: >>I second Derek's comments. Last year, our overworked >>secretary spent many, many hours filling in the reams of >>paper needed to apply to have our AOC *renewed*. He also had >>to rewrite our Ops Manual to cover items not covered in the >>GFA Ops Manual (MOSP), and then was knocked back. This AOC >>was only to allow us to offer "joy flights" to the public >>instead of insisting they take an AEF when they expressed >>the desire to *definitely* not touch the controls. We still >>haven't received an AOC. >>Now it seems that we will be *forced* to get one to be able >>to offer our own members tuition. I hope they make the >>process easier than it is at present !! >>What is GFA doing to fight this CASA idiocy ? >>I take some heart from the Press Release from John Anderson. >>At least CASA should be talking to GFA. >>Cheers, John G. >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: Derek Ruddock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:24 AM >>Subject: Re: [aus-soaring] AOC Training (Sporting Aviation) >> >> >>| This is exactly what we had to go through to renew our >>club AOC . >>| Interviews of the CFI by CASA prior to him being >>'approved', >>| a huge amount of effort & rework, before our operations >>manual was 'approved', >>| a mountain of paperwork etc etc. All this to fly TIF's >>(sorry AEF's) >>| >>| How are small clubs going to cope? >>| >>| >>| >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18/10/01 8:53:13 >>> >>| Just to clarify, folks, this NPRM does apply to GFA, so we >>are right in >>| the firing line right now. So read my last email again and >>follow the >>| links and read all about it. My reading of it in summary >>is that any >>| club that runs training would have to pay CASA at least >>$600 for the >>| start-up cost to continue what they are doing plus >>surveillance at $75 >>| per hour from the time the CASA personnel leaves the >>office. Not on. >>| >>| Regards, >>| John. >>| >>| -- >>| * You are subscribed to the aus-soaring mailing list. >>| * To Unsubscribe: send email to >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >| * with "unsubscribe aus-soaring" in the body of the >>message >>| * or with "help" in the body of the message for more >>information. >>| >>| >>| >>| -- >>| * You are subscribed to the aus-soaring mailing list. >>| * To Unsubscribe: send email to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>| * with "unsubscribe aus-soaring" in the body of the >>message >>| * or with "help" in the body of the message for more >>information. >>| >>| >> >> >>-- >> * You are subscribed to the aus-soaring mailing list. >> * To Unsubscribe: send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> * with "unsubscribe aus-soaring" in the body of the message >> * or with "help" in the body of the message for more information. >> >Maurice Little >International Trade Management >Tel 613 9335 5133 >Fax: 613 9335 5364 > >www.itm.com.au
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