>Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 13:53:31 +1030 (CST) >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: BOUNCE [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Non-member >submission from [Maurice Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] >X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViSperl10-milter (http://amavis.org/) > > >From aus-soaring-owner Fri Nov 9 13:53:30 2001 >Received: from itm.com.au ([203.32.71.45]) > by lists.internode.on.net (8.11.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id fA93NSM83777 > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 >13:53:29 +1030 (CST) > (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) >Received: from melsa05 ([192.168.0.87]) > by itm.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA27601 > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 >15:01:00 +1100 >Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >X-Sender: mauricel@pop >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 >Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 14:25:44 +1100 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: Maurice Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [aus-soaring] GFA AGM info (was re: glider wanted) >In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >First and second round papers are issued months before the AGM/ACM to all >council and state associations and many clubs. These are where the reports >are found. The combined copies are over a cm thick. If the general >consensus is that this information should also be posted on the GFA web >site my recommendation is you encourage your states council reps to put >that forward and see how it fly's. Meanwhile each of your three reps can >provide copies if you really want them. > >ML > >At 13:39 9/11/01 , you wrote: >>Quoting Mike Borgelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >>> Do I detect a faint hint of ongoing unhappiness with the magazine and >>> its "perpetrators"? >> >>Here comes the sigh from the list members again ... "oh no, more magazine >>bashing !" >> >>I can understand the sentiment of Mike's comment though - I also seem to >recall >>that a canopy (Arrow ?) from Benalla had likewise been sold some time ago >yet >>still appears each month in the GFA Classifieds along with the >aforementioned >>Hornet. >> >>A few of my pet peeves: >> >>There has been a recent series of articles to do with electrics and radio on >>trikes. WHY, oh WHY can't the editor and sub-editors at least agree that >maybe >>we we use radios and electrics too ? These articles have a GENERAL >interest, >>not just for the trike pilots, yet they (and even the writers to some >extent) >>seem to like to stick their heads in the sand and pretend they're >targeting one >>audience i.e. the one that concerns THEIR discipline. With some small >>editorial changes they would be relevant to more disciplines (with >appropriate >>icons at the page top) e.g. trikes with radios are like gliders (with >radios !) >>and motor gliders (with both motor and radio) and maybe even paramotors (I >>presume these have radios fitted ?) >> >>If the powers that be can't even amalgamate the magazine, then what hope did >>they really have of amalgamating GFA with HGFA ? >> >>I am also finding the "advertorials" a bit tedious. I mean, we all know >that >>Bernhard Eckey is the ASH/ASW agent in Australia, but do we need to have >cover >>photos, centerfolds and test flight reports each month ? Mike - maybe you >>should write a B2000 article, complete with sexy centrefold shots of it and >>then you wouldn't have to worry about paying for advertising ! LOL >> >>On the plus side, it was good to see an article on the Gloucester ridge >camp - >>just a bunch of ordinary club members from the grass roots of the GFA >>membership having a great time. There should be more of this. And also >Cath > >Conway's article on her son's experiences in a glider. That's got me head >down >>writing an article about my experiences, and those of my 3rd generation >gliding >>5 year old son. Watch AG in the new year !!! > > >>> Don't forget these same people occasionally interface with the >>> government and claim to represent you. >>> >>> Pity they haven't faced an election. >>> >>> Slightly related, has the GFA annual meeting been held? >> >>Yes >> >>> Did anything happen? >> >>For one, the Autotug finally got killed off. >> >>See the November AG/Skysailor (just arrived a few days ago), where a whole >>double page was devoted to names and addresses (physical and e-mail) of >those >>elected for the next year - in some ways it probably could have been covered >>better on the web site (and I note that the ever efficient GFA webmaster >David >>Head has done just that - THANKS DAVID !). With the exception of those >with e- >>mail only accounts like Telstra Easymail, 99.9% of those with e-mail have >web >>access too, and if you want their e-mail addresses, you are far more >likely to >>look on the GFA web site than digging around for the Nov 2001 AG/SS. > >> >>The AGM and ACM Minutes appear on the GFA web site, along with my >>favourite "missing minute matters", for example >> >>WHO moved each item ? WHO seconded each item ? >> >>Where can "Joe Average" get a copy of all the reports which were submitted >and >>accepted by the AGM and ACM ? >> >>Why aren't the reports and presentations always given to the webmaster for >>inclusion as part of the GFA web site ? Surely in 2001, EVERYONE can >submit an >>electronic version of their report. I for one would LOVE to see the >Development >>Officer's presentation as development and growth of our Club is a key issue >>that interests our Committee. >> >>Could we PLEASE (at Club and State level) encourage better Minute keeping at >>these meetings and more transparency through readily available reports and >>presentations on the GFA web site ? >> >>A member kept in the dark is a cynical member - give us a bit of >transparency, >>and thus a chance to know about and participate in the process and we're >more >>likely to give you our trust. >> >>> Does anyone care? >> >>I do - see above. I'd like to think that my $157.30 each year gets put to >more >>use than just the magazine, and that I have some say in how that money is >used. >> >>Regards >> >>Jason Armistead >> >>-- >> * You are subscribed to the aus-soaring mailing list. >> * To Unsubscribe: send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> * with "unsubscribe aus-soaring" in the body of the message >> * or with "help" in the body of the message for more information. >> >Maurice Little >International Trade Management >Tel 613 9335 5133 >Fax: 613 9335 5364 > >www.itm.com.au
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