Jantars have to takeoff full. Unless we have an honour system where people have to dump, that could be a problem!


----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Borgelt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring inAustralia." <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] World Class Glider



At 05:10 PM 8/04/05 +1000, you wrote:
I guess it would work with Open Class, but I was referring to Standard
Class. When you look at the numbers, in Australia (according to the CASA
register) there are :

36 Std Cirruses
42 Std Libelles
5 ASW-15s
8 Open Libelles
4 Jantar Stds
30 Pik-20s (Yes, there was 1 there. B & D Model Pik-20's might have a bit of
an advantage over the rest)
8 LS1s (The LS1f wasnt around then, but close enough)


And although there were no Astirs or Hornets around then, they are close
enough in performance that you would probably include them as well (between
them, there are 72 of these aircraft in Aus).


That is 204 eligible gliders. Hell, maybe we could hold the comp at
Waikerie!

Nick.

Nick,

You might as well make it pre 1980 and have 3 classes. Just exclude LS4 and
later, Ventus A/B and later in 15m class and Nimbus 3/ASW22 in Open. That
was the technology divide.


If you are worried about Std Jantar 2 wing loading simply make them fly at
the Std Jantar 1 max weight. The aerodynamics is almost the same.

I'll let you find out how many gliders that gives you. My guess is around 300.

You could call it "Classic" class with a "74 World's" sub class inside that
contest in Std and Open. That also gets over the Nimbus 2C wing loading
advantage over the earlier Nimbii.


The PIK's probably all have aileron flap interconnects now so should fly 15
meter anyway. This interconnect was not allowed in 1974.


At least any handicapping arguments should go away.

Do you have a way of sifting the register automatically by type/date of
entry on register etc?

Might be interesting to see how many of each type there are and how many
gliders were on the register say pre 1968.

Mike
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