Funny Jason, I always thought you did something with lifts ;) 

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and Jemima Armistead
Sent: Wednesday, 25 May 2005 11:30 p.m.
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Poking into the past / AG indices

All

While not wanting to be seen as a party pooper, the issue of copyright 
remains the single biggest impediment to compiling or selling such CDs
or 
putting them online.

At the very minimum, GFA as the "owner" of the magazines would have to
give 
it the OK.

However it's even more complex than that, because it may be possible
that 
each and every author of every article ever written would likewise have
to 
give their approval to allow their individual articles to be 
redistributed.  It all depends what the original terms were that the 
original manuscripts were submitted to AG.  Going back to 1948, the 
Internet and digital reproduction never existed and so copyright law and

the terms of submission to AG may not have foreseen such an 
eventuality.  Ditto for all the photographs, and possibly advertisements

that have appeared.

See the following Fact Sheet from the Australian Copyright Council

http://www.copyright.org.au/pdf/acc/InfoSheets/G013.pdf

Especially the "Publishing" section on page 5

While most authors in the gliding community might not care too much
about 
such a project, and gladly turn over their rights (assuming they're not 
assigned to the GFA by default), there might be others, like Bernd
Eckey, 
who has indicated (if I recall his articles correctly) that they were
going 
to put them together into book form, presumably for sale.  Some articles

have also been reprinted in AG with permission from other soaring 
publications - that permission probably does not extend to
redistribution 
via CD / Internet means.

While this project seems like a good way to preserve an important part
of 
Australian gliding history, we must all accept that we live in a society

where such projects do not find themselves free of the (seemingly 
restrictive) laws of the land simply because they are well-meaning.

It would only take a complaint from one of the multitude of authors to 
bring this whole idea unstuck.  Tread very carefully people !

Cheers

Jason Armistead


At 02:03 PM 25/05/2005, you wrote:
> > >Well, I have some info... Ann Woolf at Waikerie has been scanning
her
> > >collection of AGs, running from 1948 to 1997. The scanned AGs will
be
> > >for sale on CD.
> > That's pretty awesome. I look forward to hearing more.
>
>Ann's up to 1989, and plans to scan them up to 1997 when the format of
the
>magazine changed. The CDs will cost about $20 each, plus p&p. A couple
of
>years' worth fit on one CD. The whole collection will probably be 12
CDs.
>
>  CD1     1951 - 1961
>  CD2     1962 - 1966
>  CD3     1967 - 1970
>  CD4     1971 - 1974
>  CD5     1975 - 1977
>  CD6     1978 - 1980
>  CD7     1981 - 1983
>  CD8     1984 - 1986
>  CD9     1987 - 1989
>
>If you're interested in these, best thing would be to contact Ann
Woolf,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] or 08 8541 3982.
>
> > Have you considered putting the entire thing on line? That would
make
> > the documents themselves searchable (and even the photos if one
> > considers searching captions as equivalent (not always the case).
>
>The magazines aren't scanned to text: doing all that OCR would be a
>*really* big job. As it is, Ann's been working on this full-time for
>months.
>
> > .. Are
> > there any copyright or other barriers to putting everything on line?
>
>That I don't know. But I believe there's no problem with putting Ann's
>index online, because she created it herself. I'll let the list know
when
>I have something useful to show.
>
>
>
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