Hi Mike,

Nice that the GFA are having this meeting, I offered to come and present
FLARM and ADS-B from a manufacturers and a developers prospective but they
didn't see it necessary. Strange seeing as I attend Airservices and CASA
meetings.

Nigel



  

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike
Cleaver
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 11:48 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] More information on Flarm


Geoff & others

Given that FLARM is a topic for the GFA Seminar with the AGM this 
coming weekend, to be presented by the new Executive Officer John 
Welsh (being a retired Air Traffic Controller he has some technical 
knowledge of systems and separation as well as being a very 
experienced glider pilot), but with Pete & Mandy giving a 
presentation on their experiences in France as well there will be 
some useful discussion.

However, if you want to buy one for yourself (provided a suitable 
operating frequency is available) then just remember caveat emptor - 
let the buyer beware - before a proper evaluation is 
done.  Personally, I would prefer to wait until the research has been 
done, the training issues identified, and the equipment compatibility 
with other technologies has been developed.

But I doubt that it will take very long.

Wombat


At 15:59 14/09/2005, you wrote:
>Have just read he "Report from Friedrichshafen" by Dave Nadler in
>the Sept issue of SSA Soaring.
>
>There he says that Flarm is a not-for-profit organisation. I was not
>aware of that.
>
>He also says that 450 Flarms were flying at end 2004 ...... with
>2600 shipped since then (I assume this is to Countries he lists below).
>
>Based on his advice that there are 1200 Gliders in Switzerland, 500
>in Austria and 7000 in Germany and if the above assumption is 
>correct, that means they have a take-up rate that may be as high as 
>35% in a comparatively short time.
>
>But WE need to evaluate whether this is worthwhile.
>
>I can understand that there is an issue re frequencies and Dave
>mentions that as an issue for the USA, as well as Product Liability 
>Insurance for the US, ............ but does anyone really think that 
>it needs a great deal of evaluation when the Europeans pilots and 
>owners are voting with their wallets.
>
>But I guess that someone will still argue, as they did recently on
>this forum, that Flarm shouldn't be adopted here because they will 
>promote poor lookout practice ... and double negatives.
>
>Save for the technical issues ............. LET'S GET ON WITH THEIR
>ADOPTION AND IMPLEMENTATION HERE, and try to save a life or 2.
>
>Is the GFA talking with the Insurers yet? 
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