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Surely a "fair dinkum" discussion of
all of the issues about Flarm would benefit from Nigel and others being
there to allow discussion of the genuine technical issues.
If they are not there, any
discussion is prone to be highjacked by misinformation, myth and academic double
negative navel gazing.
I hope & trust that this
Flarm issue is not being "managed" by our leaders, rather than having a
genuine technically correct forum discussion ........ where that GFA Seminar
would have been an ideal location to get right into it and give every
attendee a full understanding of the issues ....... if there was time of
course. After all we are only dealing with a way to reduce mid-airs, so
perhaps several other matters are more important.
Seminar is defined in the Macquarie
as a "meeting organised to discuss a specific topic". Is part of that to be a
discussion on Flarm ..... or just some presentations that mention the
subject?
Geoff
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Subject: [Aus-soaring] More information
on Flarm-reply to Wombat
Hi Mike,
Nice that the GFA are having this meeting, I
offered to come and present
FLARM and ADS-B from a manufacturers and a
developers prospective but they
didn't see it necessary. Strange seeing as
I attend Airservices and CASA
meetings.
Nigel
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Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 11:48
PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject:
Re: [Aus-soaring] More information on Flarm
Geoff &
others
Given that FLARM is a topic for the GFA Seminar with the AGM
this
coming weekend, to be presented by the new Executive Officer John
Welsh (being a retired Air Traffic Controller he has some technical
knowledge of systems and separation as well as being a very
experienced glider pilot), but with Pete & Mandy giving a
presentation on their experiences in France as well there will be
some
useful discussion.
However, if you want to buy one for yourself
(provided a suitable
operating frequency is available) then just remember
caveat emptor -
let the buyer beware - before a proper evaluation is
done. Personally, I would prefer to wait until the research has been
done, the training issues identified, and the equipment compatibility
with other technologies has been developed.
But I doubt that it
will take very long.
Wombat
At 15:59 14/09/2005, you
wrote:
>Have just read he "Report from Friedrichshafen" by Dave Nadler
in
>the Sept issue of SSA Soaring.
>
>There he says that
Flarm is a not-for-profit organisation. I was not
>aware of
that.
>
>He also says that 450 Flarms were flying at end 2004
...... with
>2600 shipped since then (I assume this is to Countries he
lists below).
>
>Based on his advice that there are 1200 Gliders
in Switzerland, 500
>in Austria and 7000 in Germany and if the above
assumption is
>correct, that means they have a take-up rate that may be
as high as
>35% in a comparatively short time.
>
>But WE
need to evaluate whether this is worthwhile.
>
>I can understand
that there is an issue re frequencies and Dave
>mentions that as an
issue for the USA, as well as Product Liability
>Insurance for the US,
............ but does anyone really think that
>it needs a great deal
of evaluation when the Europeans pilots and
>owners are voting with
their wallets.
>
>But I guess that someone will still argue, as
they did recently on
>this forum, that Flarm shouldn't be adopted here
because they will
>promote poor lookout practice ... and double
negatives.
>
>Save for the technical issues ............. LET'S
GET ON WITH THEIR
>ADOPTION AND IMPLEMENTATION HERE, and try to save a
life or 2.
>
>Is the GFA talking with the Insurers yet?
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