Quoting Mark Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Peter Stephenson wrote:
> 
> > 1. one busy airfield on one frequency: no problem.
> > 2. three busy airfields on one frequency: big problem.
> > 3. multiple airfields on multicom: even bigger problem.
> 
> 
> I'm not quite sure how any of that is inconsistent with what I wrote.
> If you have operational reasons for not making the calls, don't make
> them.  If you don't, make them.
> 
> Why is this hard?  The yanks seem to have been coping with this gunk
> for years without complaining about it...
> 
>    - mark
> 
> 
> 
> >> Come on, people, this isn't complicated.  Use your judgement and make
> >> the calls when you can.  If your cockpit workload is too high and you
> >> miss them nobody will get upset, but if you're snoozing around a
> perfectly
> >> normal circuit there's an expection that you'll make the calls.

Just picked up on this thread so without looking at what has gone before,

The problem with frequency congestion is an operator problem partly unique to 
the culture in Australia. Many older pilots who grew up with the taxpayer 
sponsored FIS that had to be dismantled under the user pay system wanted to 
continued operations with that level of service so we had pilot-to-
pilot “Chatter”.  Many of these often professional pilots were simply reluctant 
to give up the full positive control they grew up with even when they were OCTA 
and now G/E airspace. Pilots didn’t know the separation standards that FIS used 
to separate them nor did they get the necessary currency to apply them quickly. 
Not having an easily recognisable separation standard meant chatter to largely 
invent one for their developing situation. Many of them sort of handled it to a 
similar standard that suited VFR ops. “Er, you continue that track and I’ll 
remain……….. and, errr, we should be right?”. This was picked up by the 
younger/amateur pilots and we now put these pilots on a Multicom come CTAF 
frequency and this chatter between two pilots, multiplied by ten AFLDs means we 
have chatter between 20 pilots denying position reports by 100 pilots. Many 
pilots say the new system won’t work due to frequency congestion but all that 
is required is to drop the habit of Chatting to other pilots at the expense of 
the greater number of pilots wishing to give their SHORT position reports, 
often at their remote AFLD.

Stop the rot by simply using the frequency as it is NOW intended. Read the 
documentation so that you know how to apply it. Lookout, particularly inside 
the 10nm, make the recommended pilot alerted position reports when 
operationally possible and give the new system a go. When it doesn’t work in 
your situation, ask yourself if it was because you were hesitant or was there 
someone else abusing the frequency with non standard calls (possibly at an AFLD 
remote to yours) that cluttered up the frequency. 


Best regards, Daryl
 
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