>-----Original Message-----
>From: Leigh Bunting
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>Kittel, Stephen W (ETSA) wrote:
>
>> I think for the purposes of the radio procedures your
>paddock becomes
>> an aerodrome when you begin to take off from (or land in) it!
>
>So every ag-pilot in Australia will now be flying the
>prescribed circuit pattern and making all the necessary radio calls?
>Every station-owner flying down to the back paddock to check
>the windmill is also going to do all this?
No, of course they are not going to call and they will still be legal
(as far as I know). The point which people seem to have issues with are
that the recommended calls are not mandatory. As pilot in command you
get the choice (and responsibility) of what to do to ensure the safety
of flight taking into account the circumstances.
As to what is an aerodrome. The question that was asked previously, my
previous guess was pretty close! CAR 92 d):
92 Use of aerodromes
(1) A person must not land an aircraft on, or engage in conduct
that causes an aircraft to take off from, a place that does not
satisfy one or more of the following requirements:
(a) the place is an aerodrome established under the Air
Navigation Regulations;
(b) the use of the place as an aerodrome is authorised by a
certificate granted, or registration, under Part 139 of
CASR;
(c) the place is an aerodrome for which an arrangement under
section 20 of the Act is in force and the use of the
aerodrome by aircraft engaged in civil air navigation is
authorised by CASA under that section;
(d) the place (not being a place referred to in paragraph (a),
(b) or (c)) is suitable for use as an aerodrome for the
purposes of the landing and taking-off of aircraft;
and, having regard to all the circumstances of the proposed
landing or take-off (including the prevailing weather
conditions), the aircraft can land at, or take-off from, the place
in safety.
IE if the place is suitable (and safe) for the purposes of takeoff or
landing it is an aerodrome.
>I don't think so. I asked these questions of the presenter at
>the Adelaide session of the Roadshow and at the end of beating
>around the subject, his answer was 'yes'. I got the feeling I
>had backed him into a corner and he couldn't really admit reality.
>
>Can I pose another question. At Whitwarta, we have a several
>instances a year of fixed-wing and helicopters blundering, if
>not through the circuit area, then through the immediate
>'getting away' airspace outside it. I'm convinced they don't
>even know we are there. What frequency are they likely to be
>monitoring?
During the time I was CFI at PAGC we also had numerous instances like
this. An Orion, a flight of Squirel helicopters (which went right over
the aerodrome just as a Blanik was about to launch) and multiple civil
aircraft. I don't think this is unusual for any gliding operation away
from major population centres.
I am sure you are right. IE. they don't know these airstrips are there,
nor how we operate. On occasion I have managed to communicate with some
of these overfliers, who have sounded surprised that there was a gliding
club there (although marked on the maps). I suspect that many pilots
(military and civil) don't check and never know. Also (others can jump
in here and correct me, if wrong) I think many of the military aircraft
don't carry VHF.
However, nothing in the new rules will change any of this.
>If it is 126.7, then it could be interesting to see what
>changes over the next year or so.
Regards
SWK
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