You use a wide angled mirror, and what is being talked about here is a rear 
viewing camera.  What is the difference in terms of distraction?  Sureley they 
are both just showing the rear view using different methods?

I'm fairly sure the tug mistress at Joeyglide this year had something like this 
setup already.  I vaguely remember talking about it.  Can anyone else who was 
there recall?

Tom
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Stuart & Kerri FERGUSON 
  To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 12:08 PM
  Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Rear Vision Camera


  While the use of new technology can be fun, sometimes it can also be 
distracting, and 

  costs far exceed gains. How many ropes do your tuggies destroy a month in the 
fence, and 

  what is the cost?

   

  As a Tuggie I usually see and feel the glider release, and in a lot of cases 
the glider pilot keys 

  his mic and says thanks, indicating his release, if the glider is so far out 
of station that you can't 

  see him in the mirror 99% of the time you will feel that too, and you hope 
the instructor would do 

  something before you have to.  We use a wide angle mirror, great in flight, 
not so great on the ground,

  two mirrors would fix that.

   

  One or two pilots like to trick you into not knowing when they have released 
- they are quickly fixed, 

  charge them for the additional altitude that cuts down on repeat offences.

   

   

   

   

   

       

   


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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Shirley
  Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2007 12:08 PM
  To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
  Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Rear Vision Camera

   

  Hi Derek

  But only solves on of our two needs. Being certain the glider is off before 
suddenly shutting the throttle and descending at 80 kts is more important. 
Creating a tug upset causes the tuggy to guillotine the rope which is then 
thrown in the garbage - $100!

  Michael

   


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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Ruddock
  Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2007 11:48 AM
  To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
  Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Rear Vision Camera

   

  How about mounting a small magnet in the rope near the coloured marker to 
trigger a reed relay or similar and operate a buzzer?

   


    

  -----Original Message-----
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Shirley
  Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2007 11:34 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: [Aus-soaring] Rear Vision Camera

   

  Lake Keepit is experimenting with an on board Tost rope recoil winch on our 
eTug that eliminates loss of rings, eliminates risk of tug upset (tug has a 
guillotine on the rope) reduces taxiing time, saving time and fuel. To speed up 
"take up slack" we want to mount a small video camera on the tug release 
bracket to see a colour marker on the rope (indicating rope nearly out) and 
also to see the glider has released. eTug has the ability to descend abruptly 
so safety demands certainty of glider release.

   

  Most car and truck rear vision cameras have a wide angle view - 95 to 110 
degrees. We need about 45 degrees - can anyone help source a robust water 
resistant 12v video camera?

  Michael Shirley



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