It’s actually very simple, although it’s taken me ten years to work it out - My 
favourite glider is the one I’m flying at the time. That’s any glider, wood, 
metal or even plastic.

-----Original Message-----
From: "JR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." 
<[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 23:20:30 +0930
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Pipcher K-4?

Surely Bruce you cannot say that a cirrus has feel in the elevator circuit ? 
and as for hornets libelles mosquito,s they are nice and light on the controls, 
you think them around the sky, beautiful, a sailplane you can fly all day and 
still feel refreshed , I just like flying, and I dont mind most of the machines 
we have in Australia, my dislikes of some types comes from working on them.
regards JR
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bruce Campbell 
  To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:15 PM
  Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Pipcher K-4?


  Mitch,

  Std Cirrus is MUCH nicer to fly than a Libelle. Just don't let go of the 
stick, and don't fly it at the aft limit.

  Aileron/rudder coord is perfect. Libelle is shocking. Elevator is not pitch 
sensitive as such, it is just low stick force per G. That sounds 
counter-intuitive, but for normal control movements it is not sensitive, but 
excessive movements produce large G loading - esp if you let go of the stick 
and it gets a gust or something - then the stick goes to full travel (either 
way) and you get a large G response. Easy fix - DON'T LET GO OF THE STICK. 

  I never had PIO in a Std Cirrus, and I've flown 7 of them now. I did have PIO 
in a Hornet (piece of junk) as there is no "feel" to the stick at all.

  Cheers

  Bruce





   
  On 17/04/07, Mitchell Preston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
    Looks like the result of a Piper Cub and a K4 having a quick
    'liaison' behind a hangar...

    Speaking of all-moving tails (boom tish!), I always found myself at
    least 10 seconds behind the similarly-adorned Janus that BT used to
    have at his Kentucky ops. I've never quite worked up the courage to
    get back into a glider of the AMT species. I'm sure my fears are 
    unfounded - just a case of once bitten etc. I dips me lid to you Std
    Cirrus drivers. Can't be any more 'difficult' to fly than a Std
    Libelle, can they? On the topic of glider handling characteristics, 
    an open question to all and sundry (and JR): which glider has had you
    walking away from it after landing saying "Thanks, but no thanks"? I
    don't mean the Libelle, by the way (my father had one - I thought it 
    was tops).

    Alf Lying-Tale.




    On 17/04/2007, at 7:57 AM, Caleb White wrote:

    > That's actually one of the more tasteful K-4 motor conversions I've
    > seen photos of.
    >

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