Haven't tried West End?




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I though that Gliders were like beer, no bad ones, just some better than 
others.

K

>From: "Caleb White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in 
>Australia."<[email protected]>
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>Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Pipcher K-4?
>Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 08:12:43 +1000
>
>Itâ??s actually very simple, although itâ??s taken me ten years to work 
it 
>out - My favourite glider is the one Iâ??m flying at the time. Thatâ??s 
any 
>glider, wood, metal or even plastic.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "JR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." 
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>Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 23:20:30 +0930
>Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Pipcher K-4?
>
>Surely Bruce you cannot say that a cirrus has feel in the elevator 
circuit 
>? and as for hornets libelles mosquito,s they are nice and light on the 
>controls, you think them around the sky, beautiful, a sailplane you can 
fly 
>all day and still feel refreshed , I just like flying, and I dont mind 
most 
>of the machines we have in Australia, my dislikes of some types comes 
from 
>working on them.
>regards JR
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Bruce Campbell
>   To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
>   Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:15 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Pipcher K-4?
>
>
>   Mitch,
>
>   Std Cirrus is MUCH nicer to fly than a Libelle. Just don't let go of 
the 
>stick, and don't fly it at the aft limit.
>
>   Aileron/rudder coord is perfect. Libelle is shocking. Elevator is not 
>pitch sensitive as such, it is just low stick force per G. That sounds 
>counter-intuitive, but for normal control movements it is not sensitive, 
>but excessive movements produce large G loading - esp if you let go of 
the 
>stick and it gets a gust or something - then the stick goes to full 
travel 
>(either way) and you get a large G response. Easy fix - DON'T LET GO OF 
THE 
>STICK.
>
>   I never had PIO in a Std Cirrus, and I've flown 7 of them now. I did 
>have PIO in a Hornet (piece of junk) as there is no "feel" to the stick 
at 
>all.
>
>   Cheers
>
>   Bruce
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   On 17/04/07, Mitchell Preston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>     Looks like the result of a Piper Cub and a K4 having a quick
>     'liaison' behind a hangar...
>
>     Speaking of all-moving tails (boom tish!), I always found myself at
>     least 10 seconds behind the similarly-adorned Janus that BT used to
>     have at his Kentucky ops. I've never quite worked up the courage to
>     get back into a glider of the AMT species. I'm sure my fears are
>     unfounded - just a case of once bitten etc. I dips me lid to you Std
>     Cirrus drivers. Can't be any more 'difficult' to fly than a Std
>     Libelle, can they? On the topic of glider handling characteristics,
>     an open question to all and sundry (and JR): which glider has had 
you
>     walking away from it after landing saying "Thanks, but no thanks"? I
>     don't mean the Libelle, by the way (my father had one - I thought it
>     was tops).
>
>     Alf Lying-Tale.
>
>
>
>
>     On 17/04/2007, at 7:57 AM, Caleb White wrote:
>
>     > That's actually one of the more tasteful K-4 motor conversions 
I've
>     > seen photos of.
>     >
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