"Haven't tried West End?"

You would'nt want to!

It's ahead of 4X & VB though.

Oops! Sorry! Was just having fun.

CMcD

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Haven't tried West End?





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I though that Gliders were like beer, no bad ones, just some better than
others.

K

From: "Caleb White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Itâ??s actually very simple, although itâ??s taken me ten years to work
it
out - My favourite glider is the one Iâ??m flying at the time. Thatâ??s
any
glider, wood, metal or even plastic.

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To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 23:20:30 +0930
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Pipcher K-4?

Surely Bruce you cannot say that a cirrus has feel in the elevator
circuit
? and as for hornets libelles mosquito,s they are nice and light on the
controls, you think them around the sky, beautiful, a sailplane you can
fly
all day and still feel refreshed , I just like flying, and I dont mind
most
of the machines we have in Australia, my dislikes of some types comes
from
working on them.
regards JR
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Bruce Campbell
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  Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:15 PM
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  Mitch,

  Std Cirrus is MUCH nicer to fly than a Libelle. Just don't let go of
the
stick, and don't fly it at the aft limit.

  Aileron/rudder coord is perfect. Libelle is shocking. Elevator is not
pitch sensitive as such, it is just low stick force per G. That sounds
counter-intuitive, but for normal control movements it is not sensitive,
but excessive movements produce large G loading - esp if you let go of
the
stick and it gets a gust or something - then the stick goes to full
travel
(either way) and you get a large G response. Easy fix - DON'T LET GO OF
THE
STICK.

  I never had PIO in a Std Cirrus, and I've flown 7 of them now. I did
have PIO in a Hornet (piece of junk) as there is no "feel" to the stick
at
all.

  Cheers

  Bruce






  On 17/04/07, Mitchell Preston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    Looks like the result of a Piper Cub and a K4 having a quick
    'liaison' behind a hangar...

    Speaking of all-moving tails (boom tish!), I always found myself at
    least 10 seconds behind the similarly-adorned Janus that BT used to
    have at his Kentucky ops. I've never quite worked up the courage to
    get back into a glider of the AMT species. I'm sure my fears are
    unfounded - just a case of once bitten etc. I dips me lid to you Std
    Cirrus drivers. Can't be any more 'difficult' to fly than a Std
    Libelle, can they? On the topic of glider handling characteristics,
    an open question to all and sundry (and JR): which glider has had
you
    walking away from it after landing saying "Thanks, but no thanks"? I
    don't mean the Libelle, by the way (my father had one - I thought it
    was tops).

    Alf Lying-Tale.




    On 17/04/2007, at 7:57 AM, Caleb White wrote:

    > That's actually one of the more tasteful K-4 motor conversions
I've
    > seen photos of.
    >

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