At 02:54 PM 20/05/2008, you wrote:

Although from reading the editorial in the last SAAA magazine the
rampant stupidity in the Australian sport aviation bodies seems to
have infected even the SAAA nowadays.

Mike


Why not rather put your efforts in to helping to correct the deficiencies you see. Lets hope you don't need anything from said rampantly stupid sport aviation bodies.

Chris


Chris,

Did you read the editorial by the SAAA President?

He was saying that when the SAAA is "self administrating" they will issue Airworthiness certificates for Experimental homebuilts that will only remain in force while the person who owns that aircraft is a member of SAAA. Just how this is an advantage to anyone over the present system where the certificate remains valid indefinitely is beyond me.(It's a problem when someone wants to sell the aircraft) If he's worried about the SAAA resources why not simply charge for the inspection and certificate issue at fair cost? What has anyone's membership got to do with it? What has who owns the aircraft got to do with the airworthiness certificate anyway? I always thought that went with the aircraft. The Certificate of Registration is a different matter and we are talking VH registered aircraft here. Hopefully sanity will prevail and that idiot will be booted out at the next election. At least the SAAA has them (elections, although they seem adequately supplied with idiots also). It has crossed my mind now and again to join SAAA as I own and fly an Experimental homebuilt but that sort of stupidity puts me off.

The "rampant stupidity" in general is the fragmentation of Australian sport aviation into jealously guarded little fiefdoms who attempt to coerce people into becoming and remaining members instead of competing for members by offering value, chiefly a competent political lobby so that the "true believers" at CASA don't stuff up their activities. At present, instead of simply taking the private operating rules and adding a few small sections to cover particular and unique aspects of their operations, GFA and RAAus write extensive ops and maintenance manuals at unnecessary expense which largely duplicate what CASA has already done and at least in GFA's case get even more prescriptive and restrictive than CASA. It is also unnecessarily expensive if a person wishes to participate in more than one sport aviation activity.

I'm in favour of sport aviation organisations which promote their particular activities. Regulating them also, leads to a conflict of interest. If CASA doesn't want to do the regulation (a job which Parliament gave it) they are free to delegate and do so. Best this is done with real businesses which deal with the general public for services provided not through the mechanism of some compulsory "membership" of particular organisations which enjoy a completely unwarranted special status with CASA. Competition is to be encouraged to keep everyone honest and it would then be unnecessary for CASA to maintain the fiction of "parallel paths" .

I wonder how many in favour of the present system believe in "no union ticket- no start" with respect to jobs? It is the behaviour of unprincipled thugs in my opinion.

Of course the jealous guarding of their turf (and income) that led GFA and RAAus to kill the CASA Recreational PPL a few years ago, which many on this forum appeared to be in favour of. I've yet to see a reasoned defence of this action. I did see some emotive claptrap from Paul Middleton in the RAAus magazine but it was transparently self interest.

Mike






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