Hi all,
Maurice wrote:
> The actual process seems to be confused by many. The Board comprises 5
> state elected representatives. That is they are 100% chosen by their
> constituents (the ordinary members of their region).
I have NEVER been given the opportunity to vote for our state reps-only for my
clubs SAGA rep, who then elects the state reps, so simply this statement is
incorrect- I have no control of the way my clubs SAGA rep votes, I can tell him
my thoughts but there is no obligation for him to vote that way. Not democratic.
The remaining Board
> members are 4 heads of department again 100% elected by the other members
> of the respective department again those in the best position to know the
> relative skills, qualities and merits of their rank.
So the annointed few make better decisions than the many, who can just damn
well like it.-Not democartic.
The remaining 3 Board
> members are elected from the ordinary members by the Board which have
> already been the best selection provided by the specialist department or
> the region.
SO Again no member DIRECTLY votes for these members, only " board" -Not
democratic
It is these three that your point is centered around in regard
> to experience, knowledge consistency and it is these three that may benefit
> from general membership election rather than Board election from the
> general membership, but that would hardly change the balance of power and
> could reasonably create a disconnect such as exists in the HGFA and which
> causes them constant problems.
>
> All members had a chance to vote for the constitution when we migrated.
Yep, and a direct election was not offered at that time, so there was no
choice, I wonder who decided on the options? Oooooh thats right-the board!-Not
democratic.
Simply we were deliberately put in a position where the outcome was pre
determined by the then board. This is no kind of democracy. This is a conjuring
trick, often used by the civil service, give 2 options which on close
examination are the same, and a third that is unacceptable-. See the HGFA
election method for how it should be done.
> What we have was deemed by enough members to be the best compromise.
In fact it was the only option-Not democratic.
> Members on this forum also had the chance to vote. If they did and they all
> felt that the process of selection and election of Management was deficient
> it is clear that the majority of the members simply didn't agree with them.
Not true, the option was never given.
Maurice has neatly laid out the power structure that keeps the 200 people that
have run the GFA for the last 20 years firmly entrenched-by rules of their own
making. not democratic at all.
Simply put, more spin, no substance
Regards all
Dave L
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