You just hit it on the head Gary. Good on ya.
In CASA i met a heap of very competent people who are very disillusioned. There
are a small minority of difficult people but the balance between the many
influencing factors is a slippery slope.
It would be grand to think that the people the system is being maintained for
would support and benefit ongoing improvement
but alas i am loath to suggest it is much easier to critique from a partially
informed perspective than to actually look at the broader view.
BTW, the ICAO audit is only the tip of the iceberg.
Cheers
Mark
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 20:31:31 +1000
> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] ICAO audit of Australian air safety oversight
>
> Mike,
> That is a very sweeping statement. Perhaps it might be fairer to say that
> SOME aviation bureaucrats are incompetent. It seems to me, after only the
> briefest of scans through (part only) of the document, that the issues are
> far deeper than that. The aviation regulatory system in this country has
> been in turmoil (read a mess), for years, and that fundamentally gets right
> back to the quality of the management at the very top levels. This points
> the finger squarely at the various Ministers of Aviation (how so ever
> called) and the Australian Parliament itself! The Minister makes
> recommendations as to who he wants as his department head, and it is then up
> to the Parliament to ratify (or not) that recommendation. No doubt a can of
> worms for a weak Minister!
>
> I seem to recall that at one stage Dick Smith was appointed as a new broom
> to address these issues. I think he gave up in the end, which wasn't very
> long after the beginning! Perhaps you might have a clearer recall of the
> problems that he encountered, and enumerate them?
>
> With respect to the report, the obvious first issue is funding. If the top
> management is incompetent or weak, then it is unlikely that they will "go
> into bat" jump up and down, scream and shout etc to make sure that the
> Minister is fully aware of all the issues, and thus can go to Parliament
> and make a strong case to ensure that adequate funding is provided in the
> annual budget to allow the department to meet all/most of its obligations,
> including the issues addressed in the report. As you well know there is very
> fierce competition for the limited pool (no matter how big that pool may
> be), of funds available. The question that then follows is "are the
> available funds being used to best advantage?" Again this reflects directly
> on the top management. This forum has several members who serve/have served
> in the field. I would be fascinated to hear their comments on any of this.
>
> The report mentioned such things as inadequate training, and lack of an
> adequate workforce to carry out the necessary duties under the agreement.
> Basically very simple issues to resolve, provided the funding and
> will/direction is there!
>
> So Mike, what do WE do about it? I welcome your CONSTRUCTIVE comments.
>
> Regards,
> Gary
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Borgelt" <[email protected]>
> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 5:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] ICAO audit of Australian air safety oversight
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>
> >
> >
> > Well, well.
> >
> > So Australian aviation bureaucrats are incompetent. Who knew?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > At 02:54 PM 11/05/2009, you wrote:
> >>ICAO has delivered this:
> >>http://www.icao.int/fsix/AuditReps/CSAfinal/Australia_USOAP_Final_Report_en.pdf
> >>
> >>... which is being discussed somewhat pointedly here:
> >>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/planetalking/
> >>"The myth of Australian leadership in air safety is ripped apart in
> >>the final
> >>and 'agreed' report of the ICAO audit of air safety oversight in this
> >>country."
> >>
> >>So there you go.
> >>
> >> - mark
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