Yes after a quick scan through I thought a lot of the figures were familiar (changed the old Hawk to an F18, though).

And further to Wombat's third paragraph the BASI report came out at a time, if my memory is somewhat correct, when there was a change in radio procedures and a greater reliability on radio separation was being recommended by BASI/CASA or whoever they were at the time. There was some small controversy at the time and I admit that I was on the side of "see and avoid" trumps radio. Even recall having arguments with at least one local aeroclub pilot. I notice since that report originally came out though, "see and avoid" has morphed into "unalerted see and avoid". This was due, I think, to the disparaging that "see and avoid" got from this particular report and the subsequent reliability on radio _alone_ which followed in the subsequent years.

Note also that I am not saying that the report is factually wrong, it is a good collection of research and does show some real limitations of human vision. The problem was that, at the time, it was used as a sledge hammer and the alternate reliance on radio also had significant limitations which, just as Wombat noted, were never acknowledged.

Regards
SWK


Mike Cleaver wrote:
That is the ATSB report from 18 years ago - rather dated but of some relevance.

You can also download the original from the ATSB web site at http://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/1991/limit_see_avoid.aspx in PDF format - so this may be a less bulky way for those with dial-up to obtain and print it.

Unfortunately they never published a report on the limitations on use of radio for collision avoidance - and hopefully we all know that FLARM is never intended to be used as a primary collision-avoidance tool but only as a last-resort defence when radio and lookout have already failed to reduce the collision risk. It only gives a maximum of 25 seconds warning of an impending near-collision, and often less than 10 seconds. Just the same as TCAS for faster aircraft, it is a last line of defence and gives an idea of where to look to see the collision threat, if you have time!

Wombat

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