At 06:50 AM 5/11/2009, you wrote:
Yes after a quick scan through I thought a lot of the figures were familiar (changed the old Hawk to an F18, though).

And further to Wombat's third paragraph the BASI report came out at a time, if my memory is somewhat correct, when there was a change in radio procedures and a greater reliability on radio separation was being recommended by BASI/CASA or whoever they were at the time. There was some small controversy at the time and I admit that I was on the side of "see and avoid" trumps radio. Even recall having arguments with at least one local aeroclub pilot. I notice since that report originally came out though, "see and avoid" has morphed into "unalerted see and avoid". This was due, I think, to the disparaging that "see and avoid" got from this particular report and the subsequent reliability on radio _alone_ which followed in the subsequent years.

Note also that I am not saying that the report is factually wrong, it is a good collection of research and does show some real limitations of human vision. The problem was that, at the time, it was used as a sledge hammer and the alternate reliance on radio also had significant limitations which, just as Wombat noted, were never acknowledged.

Regards
SWK


Yeah Steve,

Another article with an agenda to do with the November 1993 changes to airspace procedures.

Much like the absolute garbage about climate change in the media like the Kilamanjaro article in the Australian yesterday. Yes the snow on Kilamajaro is disappearing and it is caused by people but it is due to land clearing in the surrounding areas, which means less evapo-transpiration and drier air being carried up the mountain by upslope winds hence less snow so the removal rate by sublimation exceeds the deposition rate, not CO2 induced (or any other kind of) warming. This has been well known for years.

Macca, get your eyes checked. You obviously missed the numbers down the left of the graph.

Mike


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