Hi Pam; As I understand it you are at perfect liberty to fly your glider without having it checked after rigging as things stand now. In fact I think you are free to fly it without doing a DI youself. If that's what you want to do - go for it.
On Tue, 17 May 2011, Pam Kurstjens wrote: > Peter > You live in a halcyon world where you will always be able to find a second > person available, every day that you rig your glider, who happens to have a > DI ticket for that same glider type. > If you support that, then clearly you also support the final total demise of > gliding, and that will be very safe for everybody when all gliders are in > museums because you have made it totally impractical for anybody to go and > rig and fly their glider. > Total nonsense. > Pam > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net > [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Peter F > Bradshaw > Sent: Tuesday, 17 May 2011 11:11 AM > To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Foka incident > > Hi Mike; > > On Tue, 17 May 2011, Mike Borgelt wrote: > > > At 10:16 PM 16/05/2011, you wrote: > > >Hi Ron; > > > > > >A lawsuit like what? You are responding to a mail that hypothesizes that > > >lawsuits are possible. There is no actual lawsuit. > > > > Read it again. He didn't say there was, just that there is the > > possibility in similar situations. > > Hence my use of the word hypothesizes - a word that gives his argument > more dignity than it deserves. > > > > > I sure wouldn't try your legal defence. "So are you telling the > > Court, Sir, that even though you knew there was no way of positively > > checking, you signed that the aircraft had been rigged correctly?". > > The second signer is not signing that the aircraft has been rigged > correctly. The signer is stating that he or she has checked the rigging > in a competent and reasonable manner. This is a different proposition in > law and in fact. > > I think the lesson to be learnt from this accident is that, as somebody > else here has noted, that DI tickets should be issued on a per aircraft > type basis. Plainly, in this case, neither the riggers nor the people > who checked the rigging knew how to rig or check this particular > aircraft type. > > > > > It might even be worse than a civil suit which even if you win is > > going to cost thousands to tens of thousands of dollars to defend > > with the loss of time, stress, worry etc. You might run into a > > coroner or Public prosectuor who wants to make a name for him or > > herself and find yourself on a criminal charge. > > What is this? Fear Mongering 101? How did we jump from civil lawsuits to > criminal proceedings? > > The problem with your argument is that it is one best tailored to the > idea that the best way to live our lives is to enter a windowless room, > close and lock the door, and sit quietly in the dark. > > The truth of the matter is that each of us perform actions and take > risks every day in order to live our lives. Any of us may be sued at > any time. How far the plaintiff gets is a function of the merit of their > case. The best defense is to perform in a competent and reasonable > manner. > > Further the best way to operate our sport is to perform in a competent > and reasonable manner and cross checking is an important part of this > paradigm. > > > > > Mike > > Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments since > 1978 > > phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 > > fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 > > cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 > > > > email: mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com > > website: www.borgeltinstruments.com > > > > Cheers > Cheers -- Peter F Bradshaw: http://www.exadios.com (public keys avaliable there). Personal site: http://personal.exadios.com "I love truth, and the way the government still uses it occasionally to keep us guessing." - Sam Kekovich. _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
