Now, here are the results that are achieved in a REAL sailplane: Junior World Championships "JWGC" (run bi-annually): 2009 Räyskälä, Finland:Club Class Winner: Volker Sailer, Germany; Glider: Glasflügel H-201Schempp-Hirth enthusiast are just jealous about the lack of current results in the high-end competition field. Not are their gliders low performance, outdated and uncomfortable to sit in - they are no good for winning at the moment either. And what's even sadder to witness is that brain washed followers of the Schempp cult are bad looser as well.
PS: I really like the Discus, Ventus, Duo, Nimbus - they are just another glider. :-) Erich DISCLAIMER: This e-mail (including attachments) is intended for the addressee only and may contain confidential or privileged information. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and destroy any electronic and/or hard copies of this message on your system or in your possession. Precautions have been taken to ensure that no viruses are present in this email. Erich cannot accept any responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or attachments and recommends that the recipient implements their own virus detection procedures prior to use. On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 14:53, Tim Shirley <[email protected]>wrote: > I think it a good bet that the differences in pilot skill, fitness and > preparation will count for much more than the differences in capability of > the designs, especially in this class where much new development work has > taken place in recent times. > > As to who chooses what, I am sure that (as with all sporting equipment > manufacturers) each factory will be keen to ensure that the best pilots are > flying their gliders. The deals that are done, with teams or individuals, > may not be exactly the same deals available on the website to the general > public. > > It would be very refreshing to see some of the local agents honestly > praising their opposition for a job well done and a good glider well flown. > Recover from the spin. > > Cheers **** > *Tim***** > > *tra dire e fare c'è mezzo il mare***** > > On 17/08/2011 2:13, Future Aviation wrote: > > Hi Ron > > That may be so but I have it on equally good authority that Schleicher > sold another eleven ASG 29 in just under six weeks. > > It seems that the gliding world is rapidly waking up. I hasten to add > that the Australian competition scene proved to be clearly a step ahead > of the rest. > > Kind regards > > Bernard > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Ron Sanders > Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2011 8:26 AM > To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Ventus 2's > > I have it on very good authority that the French team has just ordered a > JS1!! > Regards, Ron > > On 17 August 2011 00:29, Future Aviation <[email protected]> > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Tom > > Your e-mail prompted me to look at the results of the pre-worlds in > Uvalde, USA. > > Bruce did exceptionally well. Apparently he flew an ASG 29 and managed > to win six days out of eight. > Later today I will write to him and congratulate him on the effort. I > assume he has decided to fly an ASG 29 again at the world comps next > year. Am I guessing correctly? > > If my information is correct the German national team has also made > the switch from the Ventus 2 to the ASG 29. Feel free to have a look > at the results of the German nationals (and the other nationals in > Europe for that matter). > > Kind regards > > Bernard > ________________________________ > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]>] On Behalf Of tom > claffey > Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2011 12:33 AM > To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Ventus 2's > > Yep, the Dwarf model Schemp is the machine of choice for 15M in crap > conditions! > After spending 3 weeks in a V2B I have a lot of respect for them, > however for numerous reasons there is NFW I would trade my 29 for one! > The 29 owners flew 18M so not many to compare. How many V2 -15s in Aus? > I would like to try a 29 in 15M, however that class is dead in > Australia for new gliders - 18M is the way to go! > Bernard may be happy with Bruce's choice of glider for Uvalde next > year! ;] Tom ________________________________ > From: Adam Woolley <[email protected]> > <[email protected]> > To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in > Australia.<[email protected]> > <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, 16 August 2011 9:10 PM > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Ventus 2's > > The e-mail I sent was literally meant to be a cheeky one, knew it'd > cause a stir amongst readers. As I saw it, the comment to not to > bother with the other classes basically meant - that most would, & > they'd see the full picture.. > > I noticed that the AS gliders were the machine of choice in 18m, they > sure are a great machine! I just didn't want to admit it :) > > > Safe Circles, > WPP > > > > ----- > Sent from mBox Mail on my iPadhttp://www.fluentfactory.com/mboxmail > > ________________________ > > On 2011-08-16 10:50:38 +0000 Future Aviation <[email protected]> > <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > Hi Adam > > Contrary to your advice I did check out the results of ther other > > classes. > > Since you elected > to focus on 15 Meter class I have taken the liberty to bring up the > 18 Meter results. > > a) The first two places went to ASG 29 Pilots > b) There were six ASG 29 amongst the first 10 placegetters > c) The very first V2 (flown by an ex world champion) finished only in > 10th place. > > I ask all the others for forgiveness for bothering them with this > trivial bit of news. It would not have been necessary if a slightly > more balanced style of reporting had been applied in the first place. > > Kind regards to all > > Bernard > > PS: Apparently the ASH 30 prototype left a very good impression. > Starting the engine > when almost everyone else got home (and getting 48 points for > the > effort) did not > see it on the podium but the feedback from the pilots and > fellow competitors was > overwhelmingly positive. > > > > > > _____ > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Adam > Woolley > Sent: Tuesday, 16 August 2011 9:28 AM > To: AUS Soaring > Subject: [Aus-soaring] Ventus 2's > > http://www.soaringspot.com/lsf_egc2011/results/15-meter/total/day10.h > tml > > Mmmm, Ventus 2's !! > > Don't worry about checking out the other classes, not important this > time around :) > > > Safe Circles, > WPP > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, > visit:http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, > visit:http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, > visit:http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, > visit:http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, > visit:http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >
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