Thanks for the explanation.

One thing missing - other aircraft, such as Paragliders don't even use our 
radios. And they still fly with us too.

Scott

On 20/04/2012, at 4:25 PM, Texler, Michael wrote:

> As both a glider pilot and a private light aircraft power pilot (PPL),
> the debate about alerted see and avoid, and radio use is all very well,
> but there are situations where even directed see and avoid can be
> difficult.
> 
> Gliders (and some light aircraft) in cruising flight can be difficult to
> see, especially in overcast conditions. Even when you know where to
> look, the target can be very difficult to find, especially when they are
> approaching you front on and not thermalling. You just need to keep
> looking, and if unsure, get on the radio again. Reams about this has
> been written in the 'See and Avoid' documents.
> 
> I think that alerted see and avoid is not a bad way to operate.
> 
> Of course the debate will always rage about Gliders being on 122.7 MHz
> versus monitoring the area frequency, and about when the CTAF should be
> monitored, because alerted see and avoid will not work if you are on
> different radio frequencies.
> 
> To counterbalance this though, most light aircraft nowadays have 2 VHF
> radios, so at least you can listening out on the area frequency and
> monitor 122.7 MHz or monitoring the CTAF within 10nm of the aerodrome.
> 
> However, often the CTAF frequency becomes cluttered by all the users
> within a 50 to 100nm radius. This leads to problems too!
> 
> I would agree that many glider pilots need to tighten up their radio
> procedures: broadcast the required calls and to minimise chatter. Also
> because glider pilots are sharing airspace with other users, we should
> be teaching how to monitor the radio (and the alerted see and avoid is a
> strong argument for monitoring the area frequency when outside the CTAF)
> and to avoid unnecessary use.
> 
> Of course others will have differing opinions!
> 
> Bring them on.
> 
> Safe flying, lookout, and listen!
> 
> Michael Texler
> 
> 
> See: Operations at Non-Towered aerodromes
> http://www.casa.gov.au/wcmswr/_assets/main/download/caaps/ops/166-1.pdf
> 
> Principles of See and Avoid at Non-Towered aerodromes.
> http://www.casa.gov.au/wcmswr/_assets/main/download/caaps/ops/166-2.pdf
> 
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