At 07:42 PM 3/09/2012, you wrote:

Over past few months I have seen many problems
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All really good advice but do we really want another layer of regulation? If you are really worried, how about just giving the airworthiness function to CASA and having qualified LAMEs do the work and inspections? A reasonable case can be made that this should be done for all gliders used to fly trial instructional flights and for training and early solo.

Given the appalling record of trashing of fine machinery, injuring and killing of students by GFA instructors (anyone know how the guy who was crashed on his first weekend gliding, at Benalla, in January is doing?) maybe the minimum hours should be increased and some proper instructor training instituted, equivalent to a commercial licence in power flying? Developing an actual safety culture would be a good idea too. There isn't one currently, just a regulation and restriction culture.

Once people are trained and have been around gliding for a while they should understand what they have got in to and the "informed, consenting adults" idea can be applied. Advice and technical information from competent people is required then, regulation isn't, neither are "certified"gliders although I'd say to anyone who wants check flights and certified gliders, fill yer boots, just don't force your views on others. Developing a culture of learning and knowledge would be good judging from what I see lately in the way of laziness and willful ignorance about the technical knowledge required to fly gliders successfully.

OTOH I was in Perth in July and visited the AFA museum at Bull Creek. Well worth visiting. That's the Kingfisher I did my Silver C in, in 1968, hanging from the ceiling. I picked up a little book by Steve Hunt and Gloria Baird about the early years of gliding in WA up to 1958. Before WW2 there was utterly no regulation at all. They just acquired plans and built gliders and flew them, after teaching themselves to fly in primaries. No registration, no airworthiness certificates or inspections, no qualifications, no licences. Also no controlled airspace at all judging from some of the places they flew from and to, cross country (this is my idea of aeronautical heaven - hell is what we have now). The people had a thirst for finding out how to do this gliding stuff properly and maybe surprisingly there didn't seem to be any deaths or injuries beyond the very occasional broken limb although there was at least one very close call where 2 people could have died.

Some of these people died in gliders years later though, when there was heaps of regulation to keep us all "safe".

Mike





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