... and it wouldn't be gliding, if there weren't people complaining about 
handicaps :)

On 15/09/2013, at 10:10 PM, Tim Shirley <[email protected]> wrote:

> These handicaps and reference weights are set by the GFA Handicap Committee 
> which consists of a number of very experienced pilots, and operates through 
> the National Competition Committee headed by Tom Claffey.
>  
> I suspect it would be more productive to address and queries or concerns 
> about handicaps or reference weights to Tom, whose committee can explain the 
> rationale behind them and/or correct any anomalies.
>  
> Cheers
>  
> Tim
> Tra dire e fare c’è mezzo il mare
>  
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Daryl Mackay
> Sent: Sunday, 15 September 2013 22:26
> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW Rules
>  
> In which case all two seater handicaps would need to reflect this single 
> pilot or two pilot leaning?
> 
> On 15/09/2013 8:20 PM, "Matthew Scutter" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Maybe the reference weight is set for only one pilot? Whichever way you set 
> it, it's going to involve a big handicap to the other configuration.
> -matthew
>  
> 
> On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Terry Home <[email protected]> wrote:
> That reference weight seems quite low. With Brian and I in the DG ( less than 
> 200kg pilot weight), we sit at 690-700kg. This means two pilots of 70kg 
> required to stay within the reference weight. 
>  
> Terry
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 15/09/2013, at 12:23 PM, Matthew Scutter <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Derek,
> AUW is distinct from reference weight. Club/Sports is flown dry, and as such 
> the reference weight is lower (and not a hard limit, your handicap will 
> change slightly if you are over/underweight.)
> -matthew
>  
> 
> On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Derek Ruddock <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Mandy
> The reference weight for the DG1000 is still incorrect: the manual a.u.w. is 
> 750 kg, not 630
> Cheers
> Derek
>  
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pete and 
> Mandy Temple
> Sent: Saturday, 14 September 2013 4:00 PM
> 
> To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW Rules
>  
> Hi Derek
>  
> The document you refer to was a work in progress and was only on the site for 
> a short while, I thought I had set the permissions so only I could see it.
> I will be more careful in future.
> It is now deleted.
> The pdf version is the current version and I believe it is correct.
>  
> MT
>  
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Derek Ruddock
> Sent: Saturday, 14 September 2013 2:17 PM
> To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW Rules
>  
> Thanks for that Mandy
> The list of Handicaps Sport0008_Club_Sports_Handicaps (not the pdf version)  
> has some issues:
> -          The first page is illegible
> 
> -          There are some formatting issues on the remaining pages
> 
> -          The reference weight of the DG1000 is incorrectly shown as 630kg. 
> It is correctly shown in the  Sport0008_Club_Sports_Handicaps.pdf as 750kg
> 
>  
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mandy Temple
> Sent: Friday, 13 September 2013 6:43 PM
> To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW Rules
>  
> They are now available (Sports – Sports Documents – Competitions)
> https://drive.google.com/a/glidingaustralia.org/folderview?id=0BzvOakkAvohCbDl4ZTgzQnI5SnM&usp=sharing&tid=0BzvOakkAvohCZGozSnRsQlNGeHM
> document Sport 0018
> MT
>  
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Derek Ruddock
> Sent: Thursday, 12 September 2013 2:42 PM
> To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
> Subject: [Aus-soaring] NSW Rules
>  
> Who is responsible for the NSW rules?
> They need updating to incorporate the 2 seater class
> 
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