I think they had it right with the blaniks. I don't think anyone ever had a 
turnpoint problem in a blanik. 

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> On 12 Jan 2014, at 21:20, Ben Loxton <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> it all reminds me of a tale about a horse drawn zeppelin…….
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11 Jan 2014, at 12:35 pm, Adam Woolley <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Don't worry Rolf, this topic will get to team flying & GFA bashing soon - 
>> then Mark Newton will step in, & the cycle will continue...
>> 
>> I was thinking the same thing..!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> WPP
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11 Jan 2014, at 6:49, "rolf a. buelter" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You people are something. Somebody asks where the convention of  turnpopint 
>>> numbers instead of descriptors come from. Fair enough question if it rains 
>>> cats and dogs outside and all other inside activities are exhausted and 
>>> deadly boredom set in.
>>> Now you're suggesting that use of these numbers brings hell and damnation 
>>> or at the very least makes you crash into the Atlantic or Mt Erebus or 
>>> somewhere or at best loose your tail on take off. I'm surprised that nobody 
>>> doug out the Gimly glider yet and suggests that if we have to use numbers 
>>> they should at least be imperial.
>>> 
>>> Rolf
>>> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 09:55:54 +1000
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Turnpoints
>>> 
>>> This is the frightening bit:
>>> 
>>>  "the aircraft computer applied vastly less thrust "
>>> 
>>> Is there something wrong with having the computer work out the power 
>>> setting required and have the flight crew move the throttles to the 
>>> required setting?
>>> 
>>> Or having an acceleration monitor with a liftoff prediction once the thing 
>>> starts moving?
>>> 
>>> Or having flight crew familiar enough with the aircraft to know that the 
>>> thrust setting called for, at a weight you should have some feel for, seems 
>>> wrong?
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> 
>>> .At 09:05 AM 10/01/2014, you wrote:
>>> On 10/01/2014 8:47 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> 
>>> If people wish to continue with using just numbers they should
>>> revisit the Air NZ accident in Antarctica. Individuals working alone, no
>>> cross checking and inputting at dark O'clock.  Sooner or later you
>>> will have a very uncomfortable experience. 
>>> I've seen it time and time again even in professional aviation.
>>> Yes indeed.  This one was very close to home, and perilously close to 
>>> being Australia's worst air disaster.    The essential message is in the 
>>> first couple of paragraphs.
>>> 
>>> tn
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