it all reminds me of a tale about a horse drawn zeppelin…….





On 11 Jan 2014, at 12:35 pm, Adam Woolley <[email protected]> wrote:

> Don't worry Rolf, this topic will get to team flying & GFA bashing soon - 
> then Mark Newton will step in, & the cycle will continue...
> 
> I was thinking the same thing..!
> 
> 
> 
> WPP
> 
> 
> On 11 Jan 2014, at 6:49, "rolf a. buelter" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> You people are something. Somebody asks where the convention of  turnpopint 
>> numbers instead of descriptors come from. Fair enough question if it rains 
>> cats and dogs outside and all other inside activities are exhausted and 
>> deadly boredom set in.
>> Now you're suggesting that use of these numbers brings hell and damnation or 
>> at the very least makes you crash into the Atlantic or Mt Erebus or 
>> somewhere or at best loose your tail on take off. I'm surprised that nobody 
>> doug out the Gimly glider yet and suggests that if we have to use numbers 
>> they should at least be imperial.
>> 
>> Rolf
>> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 09:55:54 +1000
>> To: [email protected]
>> From: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Turnpoints
>> 
>> This is the frightening bit:
>> 
>>  "the aircraft computer applied vastly less thrust "
>> 
>> Is there something wrong with having the computer work out the power setting 
>> required and have the flight crew move the throttles to the required setting?
>> 
>> Or having an acceleration monitor with a liftoff prediction once the thing 
>> starts moving?
>> 
>> Or having flight crew familiar enough with the aircraft to know that the 
>> thrust setting called for, at a weight you should have some feel for, seems 
>> wrong?
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> .At 09:05 AM 10/01/2014, you wrote:
>> On 10/01/2014 8:47 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>> 
>> If people wish to continue with using just numbers they should
>> revisit the Air NZ accident in Antarctica. Individuals working alone, no
>> cross checking and inputting at dark O'clock.  Sooner or later you
>> will have a very uncomfortable experience. 
>> I've seen it time and time again even in professional aviation.
>> Yes indeed.  This one was very close to home, and perilously close to being 
>> Australia's worst air disaster.    The essential message is in the first 
>> couple of paragraphs.
>> 
>> tn
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