Ingo Renner has only one turnpoint..... Earth.....

On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 3:54 PM, James Dutschke
<[email protected]>wrote:

> I think they had it right with the blaniks. I don't think anyone ever had
> a turnpoint problem in a blanik.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On 12 Jan 2014, at 21:20, Ben Loxton <[email protected]> wrote:
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> it all reminds me of a tale about a horse drawn zeppelin…….
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> On 11 Jan 2014, at 12:35 pm, Adam Woolley <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Don't worry Rolf, this topic will get to team flying & GFA bashing soon -
> then Mark Newton will step in, & the cycle will continue...
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> I was thinking the same thing..!
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> WPP
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> On 11 Jan 2014, at 6:49, "rolf a. buelter" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> You people are something. Somebody asks where the convention of
> turnpopint numbers instead of descriptors come from. Fair enough question
> if it rains cats and dogs outside and all other inside activities are
> exhausted and deadly boredom set in.
> Now you're suggesting that use of these numbers brings hell and damnation
> or at the very least makes you crash into the Atlantic or Mt Erebus or
> somewhere or at best loose your tail on take off. I'm surprised that nobody
> doug out the Gimly glider yet and suggests that if we have to use numbers
> they should at least be imperial.
>
> Rolf
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> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 09:55:54 +1000
> To: [email protected]
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Turnpoints
>
> This is the frightening bit:
>
>  "the aircraft computer applied vastly less thrust "
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> Is there something wrong with having the computer work out the power
> setting required and have the flight crew move the throttles to the
> required setting?
>
> Or having an acceleration monitor with a liftoff prediction once the thing
> starts moving?
>
> Or having flight crew familiar enough with the aircraft to know that the
> thrust setting called for, at a weight you should have some feel for, seems
> wrong?
>
> Mike
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> .At 09:05 AM 10/01/2014, you wrote:
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> On 10/01/2014 8:47 AM, [email protected] wrote:
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> If people wish to continue with using just numbers they should
> revisit the Air NZ accident in Antarctica. Individuals working alone, no
> cross checking and inputting at dark O'clock.  Sooner or later you
> will have a very uncomfortable experience.
> I've seen it time and time again even in professional aviation.
>
> Yes indeed.  This 
> one<http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-news/wrong-computer-numbers-caused-emirates-jet-to-almost-crash-at-melbourne-airport-20090430-ao17.html>
>  was very close to home, and perilously close to being Australia's worst
> air disaster.    The essential message is in the first couple of
> paragraphs.
>
> tn
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