"How about some no-water-ballast contests"

Club Class anyone?

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim
Staniforth
Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2014 5:30 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Experimental category

Here's the glider you're after Adam.
Dick Butler's first ASW22, serial number two.
Tried to attach a pdf but it was too large, here's just the Wil Scheuemann
article on water ballast from Soaring, June 1984.
Jim

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On Fri, 1/24/14, Adam Woolley <[email protected]> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Experimental category
 To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
<[email protected]>
 Date: Friday, January 24, 2014, 7:36 PM
 
 I like your
 thinking Mike :)
 On 25 Jan 2014, at 13:18, Mike Borgelt <[email protected]>
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Well you could fly something that looks like one but  isn't.
 
 
 Buy ASW22.
 
 
 Make molds from it.
 
 
 Build glider in those molds.
 
 
 Nothing to stop you using pushrods, hardware  etc out of the  one you
bought.
 
 
 Call it the AW1 (or Superpuppup).
 
 
 Put 850 Kg on the gross weight when you apply for the  Amateur built
Experimental certificate.
 
 
 Mike
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 At 12:32 PM 25/01/2014, you wrote:
 
 I'm a Schempp-Hirth fan, through
 & true - but I can't let that get in the way of the  ASW22BLE (now a  poor
mans open class glider), a glider I've always  dreamt of owning!
 
 
 
 You heard it first here Bernard :)
 
 
 Sadly the ASW22 that is for sale (at AU$70k landed in AUS),  is sn29, so a
small wingspan & limited to 750kg.
 
 
 An offline response suggests pretty clearly I couldn't  fly it at 850kg
during a competition.
 
 
 In the mean time, Schempp-Hirth all the way!
 
 
 
 
 Cheers,
 
 WPP
 
 
 P.s. Ventus 3 (three), mmm
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 > On 25 Jan 2014, at 5:50, "Future Aviation"
 <[email protected]>
 wrote:
 
 > 
 
 > Hi Adam
 
 > 
 
 > You don't need to go experimental, mate! The later  ASW 22 models are
already
 
 > 
 
 > approved for 850 kg. 
 
 > I'm just a little worried that the ASW 22 might be  a little too
slippery for
 
 > 
 
 > you.
 
 > 
 
 > Kind regards
 
 > 
 
 > Bernard 
 
 > 
 
 > -----Original Message-----
 
 > From: [email protected]
 
 >
 [
 mailto:[email protected]] On  Behalf Of  Adam
 
 > Woolley
 
 > Sent: Friday, 24 January 2014 7:58 PM
 
 > To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in  Australia.
 
 > Subject: [Aus-soaring] Experimental category
 
 > 
 
 > If I could get enough water in the wings of an ASW22  that is limited  to
a
 
 > MTOW of 750kg...
 
 > 
 
 > Could I fly it at 850kg under an experimental category  glider within
the
 
 > GFA, & at an AUS Open Class Nationals?
 
 > 
 
 > 
 
 > Cheers,
 
 > WPP
 
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